THE CONNECTICUT GENERAL ASSEMBLY

THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Wednesday, May 24, 2017

(The House of Representatives was called to order at 1: 00 o'clock p. m. , Speaker Joe Aresimowicz in the Chair. )

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the House please come to order. Will members, staff, and guests please rise and direct your attention to the dais where Rabbi Alan Lefkowitz will lead us in prayer.

HOUSE CHAPLAIN RABBI ALAN LEFKOWITZ:

Thank you, Sir. Let's just take a moment before our prayer to reflect on those who were killed this week in Manchester, England, and remember those who were killed and also pray for healing for those who were wounded.

A speaker held up a $ 20 dollar bill in a room of two hundred. He asked, "Who would like this $ 20 dollar bill?" Hands went up. He said, "I am going to give this $ 20 dollars to one of you, but first, let me do this. " He crumples up the $ 20 dollar bill and asks, "Who still wants it?" Still hands were up in the air. "What if I do this?" Then he dropped it on the ground and started to grind it on the floor with his shoe. He picked it up and crumpled it and dirty. "Who still wants it?" Hands went up in the air. "My friends, we have all learned a valuable lesso n. No matter what I did you still wanted the money. It did not decrease in value. It was still worth twenty dollars. "

So, we remember that many times in our lives we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into dirt by the decisions we make, the circumstances that come our way. We may think that we are worthless, but no matter what has happened or what will happen, we will never lose our value. Dirty, clean, crumpled, finely creased, we are still priceless to those who love us. The worth of our lives comes in not what we do or who we know, but who we are.

As we pray, dear God, always keep us mindful that as human beings, we are special. Let us never forget it, as we may never know whose lives we have touched, the hurting hearts to which we have spoken, or the hope that we have given to another. Let us count our blessings as we say amen.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much.

HOUSE CHAPLAIN RABBI ALAN LEFKOWITZ:

Thank you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Would Representative Fishbein and the 90th District please come to the Dais to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH): I pledge the allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Is there any business on the Clerk's desk?

CLERK:

Yes, Mr. Speaker. The only business is the daily calendar.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Clerk. Are there any announcements or introductions? Representative Ritter of the 1st District, Mr. Majority Leader, for what purpose do you rise?

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon to the Chamber. We're all filing in for a big day. I just want to take an opportunity to recognize a class that's above me. A good friend Andrew Clark and constituent is here is here with the Annie Fisher Montessori Magnet School and Mrs. Sullivan's class, and they have reps -- they have students from towns represented by myself, Representative Currey, McGee, Fleischmann, LeGeyt, Byron, and Srinivasan. So, as we file in, if we could find the chance to give a warm welcome to the folks from Annie Fisher, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you for coming to our Chamber. Representative Borer of the 115th, Madam, you have the floor, and I see you have a guest from the other side of the aisle with you.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Yes, we do. We do things collaboratively in West Haven.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

I see some gentlemen, and it looks like Army Class A's, if I recognize them correctly.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Yes, you do. I am, Ladies and Gentlemen, we are very pleased to have very special guests with us today.

Captain Nick Soria has been with the United States Army since 1995. Captain Soria was originally from Arlington, Virginia, and has been a part of the Army for a long time. Captain Soria has extensive training in nuclear, biological, and chemical training, along with a master's degree in security management. He was a platoon leader in Korea. He was on the Military Police Company in Germany, and he has served as a Battle Captain when deployed in Afghanistan. Captain Soria is now the Commander of the New Haven Army Recruiting Company located and headquartered in New Haven, but with offices throughout New England.

And with him today is a resident of Hampden, Representative Elliott's district, and he is Staff Sergeant Al-Uqdah, who has been enlisted in the United States Army since 2005. He is the son of a retired Navy Office, Ruthie Ayesha Muhammad, and has made his own path, having gone through Basic Combat Training in Fort Jackson, South Carolina, and throughout his career as Staff Sergeant, has already held numerous leadership positions. His assignments include White House Communications Agency, the National Security Agency, and he is also a recruiter in the New Haven Recruiting Company.

Both have earned great accommodations. Captain Soria's has been the Meritorious Service Medal, the Army Commendation Medal with Oak Leaf Cluster, the Army Achievement Medal, the Good Conduct Medal, and multiple service ribbons. Al-Uqdah's awards include decorations and are numerous; amongst them Joint Service Commendation Medal, the Army Commendation Medal, Joint Service Achievement Medal, and the Award for Global War on Terrorism.

I welcome them along with my colleague Representative Ferraro to the House, and please help me give them a warm welcome and appreciation for the work that they do. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Gentlemen, thank you very much for your service. I need glasses, but I see Infantry Pins, I see Calvary. Thank you so much for your ongoing contributions to our Country. Thank you very much.

Although a little bit difficult, I don't normally do introductions from up here, but I do have a special friend in the well of the House, and it happens to be our House Clerk's son, but really is one of the great guys. He's come up here year after year; I've introduced him to the Chamber. I just want him to give a big wave, Andy Jortner down in the well of our House. Give a wave, Andy. [applause]

Are there any other announcements or introductions? Representative Lemar of the 96th District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, for purposes of introduction --

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Please proceed, Sir.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am so thankful today as a former Council 4, Local #3144 member, to welcome so many of my brothers and sisters from AFSCME who are joining us at the Capitol today. They're in the well of the House. The come from our largest cities, our smaller towns. They are the front-line workers in all of our communities. They're the one answering the phones, solving constituent issues, working on behalf of so many of us. And I see Mr. Brooks come in as I'm speaking. And on behalf of myself, the folks I represent in New Haven, I want to send them the best wishes on their day at the Capitol. Welcome them with the strongest words and best wishes as we fight for the next few weeks and months in our legislative session so that they know that we have their backs, 'cause we know back at home they have ours, they have our constituent's backs, and I'm so proud and thankful to welcome so many of my brothers and sisters here today. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Lemar, I see you're pointing at other representatives and their people on the Board. Are there others that would like to go along this same subject?

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Representative Santiago would like to offer a few words as well.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Santiago of the 84th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. SANTIAGO (84TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also want to welcome the AFSCME members. Welcome to the State of Connecticut, the House of Representatives, the Chamber. Thank you for all the hard work that you do, the dedication and commitment to making Connecticut the best place to live in America, always encouraging us to do the best for the state. Special shout out to those from the Meriden area, and this is your House. Gracias, en bienvenidos. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Madam. Representative Morris of the 140th, is this along the same subject, Sir?

REP. MORRIS (140TH):

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Please proceed.

REP. MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, Sir. Also want to extend a welcome on behalf of our Chairman of the Black and Puerto Rican Caucus who isn't here right now, Chris Rosario. For all the members of the Black and Puerto Rican Caucus, we certainly -- we're so welcome and pleased and honored that you're here today. Representative Santiago said it well; this is the People's House. You are the people that serve all the State of Connecticut. [applause] You do it honorably. You do it well. We are grateful for you and that you took the time to come to your House. Welcome. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Will you remark. Representative Arce of the 4th District, you have the floor.

REP. ARCE (4TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I stand to welcome these great members of the AFSCME, and I want to thank you for all the work that you guys do in the city of Hartford. These are the workers that, number one, keep our streets clean; they work at DPW, Department of Public Works. And I want to thank you for all the hard work that you do. Welcome to the House of Representatives. This is your House, and, you know, I'm very proud of the work that you do in Hartford. So, with that, I want to thank you for being here and being here on a lobby day and lobbying all of us. Thank you. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will you remark further. Representative Rose of the 118th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. ROSE (118TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I, too, rise to stand to say welcome to the House of Representatives. This is your House. Many of you know that I have worked for the City of Bridgeport for 18 years. So, I too, am a municipal employee and a proud member of SEIU NAGE. I just want to say that I know, as well as you do, that many, many times we are asked to do more with less, and it makes our jobs that much harder, and I just want to say please stand strong, I understand how you feel, and keep up the good work. Thank you. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Borer of the 115th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd also like to echo the comments of my colleagues that they made earlier, and I also want to congratulate you on your resiliency. You're continually faced with challenges, and through it all, you never miss a beat in your job. So, thank you for everything you do, and a special thanks from the City of West Haven. Thank you. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Madam. Representative Miller of the 145th, you have the floor, Ma'am.

REP. MILLER (145TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also want to thank you all. You are looking at a former member of AFSCME. So, thank you for all the work that you do. I know how it is. When you're a union member and you're dealing with management, it's not easy, but I just want to say to you, keep up the good fight. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Winkler of the 56th District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. WINKLER (56TH):

Yes, I'm a former AFSCME Local President #714, Social and Human Service Workers. [applause] I just wanted you to know that I know you represent municipal employees and State employees, and I'm proud to have been associated with you, and I'm proud of the work you do. Thank you. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Thank you very much for visiting the Capitol today, and we do appreciate all the work you do. Thank you.

The House will stand at ease.

Gentlemen, thank you again very much. I just saw the Airborne pin, too, so I should've mentioned that. Are there any other announcements or introductions? The Chamber can come back to order, please. Are there any other announcements or introductions? Representative Klarides of the 114th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. KLARIDES (114TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, through you, an introduction.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Please proceed, Madam.

REP. KLARIDES (114TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, we have in our midst retired Captain Pete Wikul. He is the longest-serving Navy SEAL in United States history, officially retired in 2009 after 39 years of service. He is the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, previously held the title of Bullfrog in recognition of the person who carries the largest amount of cumulative service. He has served all over the world, in the most dangerous positions, and in June of 1984, while serving in Lebanon, he suffered damage to 70% of his body when a gas canister exploded around him as he was saving the life of a fellow SEAL. This man is truly an American hero. I would like the whole Chamber to thank him for his service and give him our usual Chamber welcome. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Sir, thank you very much for all your contributions to this country. My understanding of the SEAL Team members, you are truly a special family, and you do the things that other people would not like to do or would not like to have to do. So, thank you so very much for everything that you've done. [applause]

Are there any other announcements or introductions? Any other announcements or introductions?

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 455?

CLERK:

On page 32, House Calendar 455, Substitute House Bill No. 7311, AN ACT CONCERNING LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANIES AND BUSINESS CORPORATIONS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

The question is acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Stafstrom, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Clerk is in possession of an amendment, LCO No. 7632. I ask the member be called and I be granted leave of the Chamber to summarize.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Will the Clerk please call LCO 7632, which will be designated House Amendment Schedule "A".

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule "A" LCO No. 7632 offered by Representative Tong, Representative Rebimbas, et al.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

The Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Stafstrom, you may proceed with summarization.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is a strike-all amendment, which becomes the bill. It contains several sections and is a fairly lengthy amendment, much of which comes from the Connecticut Bar Association as well as our business community, and continues the bipartisan effort that the Judiciary Committee has engaged in over the last couple years to try to clean up, strengthen, and improve our business and corporation statutes.

The first several sections of the bill, the first 30 or so sections, actually make changes to our existing Business Corporations Act. The second half of the bill generally makes technical changes, and I do mean most of those are generally technical changes to the Limited Liability Company statute, which we passed last year and which becomes effective as of July 1 of this year. The final section of the bill actually requires the Secretary of the State to report back to the Committee next year on efforts to fund ongoing efforts to improve our Concord Business Registration System and our other business registration software. I urge adoption.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

The question for the Chamber is adoption of House Amendment Schedule "A". Will you remark on the amendment? Representative Rebimbas of the 70th District.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Good afternoon, Madam.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Mr. Speaker, I do rise in support of the amendment before us, and if I could, just a few questions for the good Vice Chair.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

You may proceed, Ma'am.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you. I also, just to start off, want to thank the Chairs of the Judiciary Committee as well as the Vice Chair and also Representative Cummings for their interest in the legislation that's before us. And so a few questions to the Vice Chairman, which this is a piece of legislation that certainly will be a positive step for our business community in the state of Connecticut.

This legislation and the amendment that ultimately would become the bill is substantially different from the bill that was heard and had a public hearing in the Judiciary Committee; is that correct?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I don't know that I would say it's substantially different. I think several of the sections of the bill were part of the public hearing process and were introduced as stand-alone pieces of legislation. I believe this was combined -- sort of three separate concepts was combined early on in the process. One of those concepts was to create a series LLC mechanism and statute -- in our statutes. That provision has been stripped from this latest amendment before us.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Rebimbas.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I would just further then clarify that, that yes, of course, what we have before us was part of the public hearing, but there were sections that was also part of the public hearing that now are not in the amendment before us, and as the good Vice Chairman indicated, that was a series LLC. And through you, Mr. Speaker, if the good Vice Chair could just let us know exactly how and why the decision was made to take that from the legislation before us.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, Sections 1 through 33 of the underlying bill, which would've enabled series LLCs in the state of Connecticut would've required significant computer reprogramming through the Secretary of State's Office. The proponent of that bill, Representative Cummings, as well as the leadership of the Committee worked with the Secretary of State's Office, but we decided late in the game here that given our financial circumstances, we could not do that computer programming at this time, which is why we put in the reporting mechanism, which I referenced earlier.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Rebimbas.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I'd like to thank the Vice Chairman for his explanation in that regard, and certainly, it was a decision that was reached in a bipartisan manner. Ultimately, even though sections we believed would be very positive steps for the State of Connecticut and certainly also steps of interest that was taken by the Connecticut Bar Association and their business section. So, we hope to revive that and bring that back in the future, but as we concede that would have a fiscal impact that we just, unfortunately, would not be able to manage under our budget challenges that we currently have.

So, what we've attempted to do, because we have to make sure that we foresee the future and try to plan for the future in a responsible way, and this is ultimately a goal that we would like to achieve in the future, we do have the new Section 43, which does request from the Secretary of State's Office some ideas, thoughts, and options as to how we can already prepare to implement that if this were to pass in the future.

And I certainly then also want to thank the Secretary of State's Office for meeting with us because we were attempting to do everything possible to see if that was possible in this legislative session, but unfortunately, because of the fiscal challenges that we are in, it's not possible. But with that said, we certainly did everything that we could without a fiscal impact, and that is the amendment that's before us that, if passed, will become the underlying bill.

So, I'd like to once again just thank everyone for their cooperation and working in a bipartisan manner again with a insight and foresight of making Connecticut a better business community, which ultimately is what we would all like and share in. So, I do encourage everyone to support the amendment that's before us.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, good Madam. Will you remark further on the amendment that is before us? Representative Cummings of the 74th.

REP. CUMMINGS (74TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this bill. I would like to thank the leadership of the Judiciary Committee for all of their bipartisan support in doing this. This is very important for our small businesses. LLCs are one of the most highly utilized small business entity, and doing anything to make it more business-friendly is incredibly important to me and, I'm sure, to all of my colleagues, particularly Section 43, which does require the Secretary of State to report to us different ways that we can expand our current system to allow for more business-friendly legislation and product in the future, and I am looking forward to that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, Madam. Will you remark further? Will you remark further on the amendment that is before us? If not, I'll try your minds. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

All those opposed, Nay. The ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House, will the members please take your seats, the machine will be opened. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? Will the members please check the boards to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked and the Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 7311, as amended by House "A":

Total Number Voting 148

Necessary for Passage 75

Those Voting Yea 148

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent and Not Voting 3

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

The bill as amended has passed.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 366 on page 52, House Calendar 366, House Bill No. 7251, AN ACT CONCERNING REFORM DISTRICT TURNAROUND PLANS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Appropriations. Representative Fleischmann, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

The question before the Chamber is -- the question is acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Fleischmann, you have the floor.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Thank you, Speaker Morris. This measure before us comes out of a forum that the Education Committee held in February in which we invited three of the Alliance Districts that have done the most impressive job of turning around their progress as districts and academic progress for their students, and we asked them to share with us what were the key elements of their success. And in the course of that discussion, it became clear that there were three fundamentals that all of these districts had followed that might not currently be included in Alliance District Turnaround Plans.

Those were: One, governance, making it clear what the role of the Board of Education was, what the proper role of Central Office was, and making sure that those parties stayed in their lanes. Second, use of data. All of these districts had impressive data teams that were constantly collecting data on what was happening in the -- by student, by classroom, by school, and used that data to inform what they were doing with instruction to keep things moving ahead. And last but not least, they all had systems for developing local leaders and ensuring succession plans so that they had a great school and that principal got plucked from that school to get a promotion in that district or some other district. They would have someone ready in the wings to make sure that the success of the school continued.

So, we listened closely at that forum and the measure before us reflects those best ideas that we heard. And essentially, what it would do is ensure that an Alliance District seeking approval from the State Department of Education for its Turnaround Plan will have some type of memorandum of understanding between the Board of Ed and the Central Office and with State Department of Ed about the parties staying in their lanes, that they will use data teams and use the data analytics from their classrooms to inform what their districts are doing, and will work to have development of local leadership and succession planning.

So, this measure makes sure that the District Turnaround Plans that the State Department of Education approves align with the very best practices that we've seen. In that spirit, Mr. Speaker, the Clerk is in possession of an amendment, LCO 7711. I would ask that the Clerk please call and I be given permission to summarize.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Will the Clerk please call LCO 7711, which will be designated House Amendment Schedule "A".

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule "A" LCO No. 7711.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

The Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Fleischmann, you may proceed with summarization, Sir.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, after the bill left Committee and went into file form, we learned that the original language in the bill that essentially required the State Department of Education to create a model memorandum of understanding for Alliance Districts to use had problems both with its cost, according to the Office of Fiscal Analysis, and with some of the contractual obligations, according to the Office of Legislative Research.

So, the joint amendment that's now before us essentially takes the "shall" regarding a model understanding between the Board of Education, the Central Office, and the State Department of Education, and turns it into a "may," and says the State Department may develop such a model and districts may use it. So, it ensure that there is no mandate, and therefore, no cost associated with the underlying bill. I move adoption.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Question for the Chamber is adoption of House Amendment Schedule "A". Will you remark on the amendment? Representative Lavielle of the 143rd.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm over here, Mr. Speaker. Good to see you up there. I just wanted to say briefly on the amendment -- I'll remark on the bill afterwards -- that I support the amendment. It does eliminate the fiscal note at a time when we need to do this without affecting the intent of the bill. I would urge everyone to support it. Thank you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you. Will you remark further? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Representative Fishbein of the 90th District.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, I'm just -- some questions for the proponent, if I may.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

You may proceed, Sir.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Understanding that the Committee determined initially that there was a need to engage in this activity, the language that left Committee had the mandate of "shall. " Is that my understanding?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleishmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes, the underlying bill has "shall," and the amendment that we are now discussing replaces that with "may. "

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, it appears to me that we're balancing a government need against financial availability. I think that's a comment. This being permissive, why do we need to do this at all at this point in this state's history?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, as I tried to convey in my initial description of the bill, all of the districts that have really shown progress from being Alliance Districts with scores and accountability indices that were low and moving up the ladder followed approaches like that described in the bill and now this amendment. So, we could have just stricken the concept entirely from the bill, but that would've taken us away from the spirit of the measure before us, which is to try and isolate the best practices of these top-performing Alliance Districts and make sure that the other Alliance Districts, which may not be achieving results that are quite as impressive, follow the same trajectory. So, this amendment before us is intended to achieve that end.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, using the permissive language, how is anything guaranteed to be achieved here?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, nothing is guaranteed, but we have set forth in statute what we believe to be a best practice.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is it possible that the Department of Education could engage in this activity on their own absent this legislation?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, it is possible, but it has not happened in the six years -- five years since Alliance Districts were created. So, the Education Committee is seeking to point the State Department of Education clearly in that direction.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is it not possible, since the Education Committee has cognizance over the Department of Education, for it to call the Department of Education before it and to find out why it isn't doing this on their own?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, it's not necessary for us to place such a call. We know that the State Department of Education has an office of District Turnaround and that they had some basic standards for what needed to be in turnaround plans and that some of the best practices that the Education Committee heard in public hearing this year hadn't made it into those requirements. So, we're seeking to marry the good ideas that the State Department of Education has been pursuing with the best practices we heard at our informational forum.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am done with my questions.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, Sir. Will you remark further? Will you remark further on the amendment that is before us? If not, I will try your minds. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

All those opposed, nay. The ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would -- I would offer comment before I ask my good colleague, the Chair of the Education Committee, a couple of questions, that the forum that we convened and the dialogues that that initiated with a number of districts that had seen a lot of success in turning around their districts that weren't doing so well really yielded a lot of excellent information, as you can see here in the content of the bill, and it really was part of our exercising our role of oversight and collaboration with the State Department that we undertook this and shared what we learned from that exercise with the State Department of Ed. I think that's actually a very good practice and one that I know a lot of our committees do engage in. This one was particularly fruitful, and I'm glad that we have found a way to put some of those good ideas about governance and about the use of data into practice. So, I do support the bill and the intent of the bill.

I would like to ask just a couple of questions to the proponent for clarification.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann, prepare for questions. Representative Lavielle, you may proceed, Madam.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The first question I have, and I believe that the Chair has already outlined this a bit, but just so that we're -- that -- you know, for complete guideline and information here, what were some of the gaps that we were seeing in our turnaround school districts here that this is going to address?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I'll confine my response to the three focal areas of the bill. So, in governance, while the districts that came before us made it clear how respectful the Boards of Education and Central Offices were of their respective roles and that the Boards were staying focused on high-level policy, and the Central Office was focused on management of the district. That clear separation of roles is not something that we're seeing in all the districts that are Alliance Districts. In fact, it's been brought to the attention of many in our Committee that there are some Boards that start to try and become micro-managerial and voice opinions on matters that really are not the province of a high-performing Board of Education. So that's one area.

Second, use of data: In this day and age, everyone understands the concept that to make sure that your schools are doing well, you have to make sure that each student is progressing well academically, and that means you have to be paying attention to data points, and that's not just an end-of-year summative exam. That's about how kids are doing on formative assessments, what we used to call quizzes when we were younger, and tracking that data and making sure that all the kids are progressive properly. The outstanding districts do this with data teams, with school data teams, with district data teams, that are all talking with each other and constantly correcting. The districts that are struggling either collect the data, but don't really utilize it in that manner, or, in some cases, aren't today properly collecting this critical data.

Last, when it comes to leadership, the districts that we heard from tend to grow great leaders within their districts and promote them and have them ready to take on roles and responsibility. They are aware of the fact that you have to have school leaders, district leaders who understanding the role of the teachers and who are working well with the teachers and the data teams, and that if an excellent school leader goes away, you have to have a system that allows for that and allows for continuation of excellence. And so, they have not only systems for training great leaders, but systems for succession.

We have seen all too often in the districts that are still struggling that there may be a school that's a standout, that has all the sort of markers of progress you would want to see, that loses its principal and suddenly declines. So again, in this measure, what we're seeking to do is take that best practice that we heard about and try and make sure that in district turnaround plans, all the Alliance Districts are aspiring to that as well.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, Sir. Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And finally, just one further question: Now that we have -- and I think very correctly so -- addressed the fiscal aspect of the bill with the amendment, is there -- how much of an expectation is there that, given the financial constraints and that it may not be possible to spend anything in this area for a while -- how much of an expectation do we have that it will still be possible for the Department and at least some of these districts to make a little progress in these areas by working together?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleishcmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, assuming that the State does not create too much hardship on the budgetary front for our local education authorities, I'm optimistic that this measure can make a real difference. When a District Turnaround Plan must include data teams and leadership development and succession, when we have districts that are ready, have set forth the roles of their Board and their Central Office that may be shared with other districts, through the mechanisms here and where the State Department is disseminating them, I do think it's possible to see improvement. And one of the best pieces of evidence for this is that there is not a strong correlation today in Connecticut between district expenditures and academic attainment.

There is some correlation, but not what you would expect to see, and the reason why it's not a strong correlation is because there are districts of excellence that are not spending that much money compared to the average, but that are following all these sorts of practices, and there are districts that are struggling that have a lot of resources, but that have failed to adopt these key underlying strategies. So, I think especially in this time of fiscal challenge it's important for us to try an make sure these best practices get out among the districts that need the most.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you. I thank the good Chair for his answers. I agree with that last assessment that it was important that we pinpoint some of the very clear actions that districts that need to improve dramatically can take, and the fact that they're memorialized in statute is a very important sign of progress in the right direction. So I think that this bill can do nothing but help our districts that most need it, and I would urge everyone in the Chamber to support the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, Madam. Representative Belsito of the 53rd District.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a few questions for the proponent of this bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann, prepare yourself for questions. You may proceed, Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, what are they doing now, the State Board of Education, that this bill is going to enhance that?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, today, Alliance Districts are required to submit their District Turnaround Plans to the State Department of Education for approval, and the State Department of Ed. vets them, and if they find them insufficient, they send them back to the districts for revision. Under this measure, we give some much needed clarity to things that need to be in the District Turnaround Plan of any Alliance District as discussed with the good Ranking Member a moment ago.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito, although Ladies and Gentlemen of the Chamber, if you'd tone your voices down, or if you have an extended conversation, if you could take it outside the Chamber so that the gentlemen can hear one another. Thank you. Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to the proponent of the bill, through you, why are we going to direct the transfer of teachers and their wages through the Board of Education -- the State Board of Education?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, the legislation before us does nothing of that kind. I'm guessing that my good colleague may be looking at some underlying statute that's already in place, but this bill does not have that effect.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It also states in the bill that there is going to be -- through you, Mr. Speaker, there is going to be additional training for the teachers throughout the year -- or not throughout the year, but additional training for teachers. Is that not done at this point in time?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, again, I believe my good colleague is reading existing statute as opposed to new language in the bill.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and the proponent of the bill has stated that there are schools that are excellent and there are schools that are not excellent. Why do we need another state law to tell them what to do? Why can't the State Department of Education direct those schools that are not doing well to change their attitude, to change their -- what they're teaching, and move on? This bill is not needed. What we need is a strong Board of Education.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I believe my good colleague made a statement that didn't have a question at the end that I could discern. I hear his opinion. I don't share it, but I respect that. Thank you.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you one more time, Mr. Speaker, right now, it was stated by the proponent of the bill that the State Board of Education knows that there are certain schools that are doing better than other schools. Why do we need a state law to tell them what to do in this instance?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann,

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I believe my good colleague may have heard me incorrectly. While we do have schools that outperform other schools, this bill is about district reform and district-level policies, and we have some Alliance Districts that have turned around and are doing extraordinarily well and some Alliance Districts that are still struggling. For those that are still struggling, it's important for them to understand the best practices that were adopted by the districts that have made progress. So, this measure will help all those districts in the state that continue to struggle that have not either become aware of or adopted best practices and will empower the State Department of Education to essentially push those best practices out to the struggling districts.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you to the proponent, isn't it the job of the State Board of Education to direct attention to these districts that are not doing well and use the information from the districts that are doing well to make those that are not doing well do better?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Then why do we need this bill, through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent?

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in the response to another colleague a few minutes ago, the Alliance District System with District Turnaround Plans has been in place for five years, and yet, in those five years, the elements that the Education Committee has pointed to in this bill and called out in the course of our public hearings never became required elements of District Turnaround Plans previously. So, I have no reason to expect that the State Department would spontaneously change its approach.

We, the members of the General Assembly, are the ultimate policymakers for this state. We were elected to exercise our best judgment, not to sit back and wait for appointed boards and appointed commissioners to do what they will do and sit on our hands. When we have the ability to find best practices and call attention to them and disseminate them, I believe we should, and that's what this measure would do.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, it sounds as if the proponent of the bill is saying that the State Board of Education is not doing their job.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, again, I heard a statement, not a question. If that statement reflects my good colleague's opinion, he's welcome to it. I don't necessarily share that view.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, one more time, it sounds as if -- and I'm making this a question -- the proponent believes that the State Board of Education is not doing their job. That is why he is introducing this bill, to compel them to do their job.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

To the good gentleman, I think you're being asked to form your -- form it as a question. If you could do so, it would be beneficial.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

One more time, through you, Mr. Speaker, the proponent of the bill as he stands here and with his bill, it appears -- the question is does he think that the State Board of Education is not doing their job? Because that's what it sounds like to me.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, Sir. Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank my colleague for clarifying his question. So, our State Board of Education has a long list of responsibilities that involve overseeing the State Department of Education, and overseeing these District Turnaround Plans is one part of its portfolio. So, if we're talking about that one area of State Board responsibility, I would say that the State Board and the State Department of Education has done pretty well, but could do better, and that this General Assembly has found some ways that it could do better, and this bill will move them in that direction.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, I do not understand why that the Board -- the State Board of Education has not been given directives as to make all of the districts in our state do as well as some of the best districts.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if it were a simple matter to ensure that a district that was struggling became a district that was achieving great results, we would not have witnessed the huge debates that we've seen over education policy in this nation over the last 16, 17, 18 years, and great debates that are going to continue going forward into the next few years. Educational systems are complex enough that different parties disagree about what works. What we did at the Education Committee was we said, okay, let's put aside folks' ideological predispositions or preconceptions, let's bring forward the best-performing districts and see if we can find commonalities. We did, and that's what we've put into this measure.

I wouldn't fault our State Board of Education or State Department of Education for not having found certain policies that we, the Education Committee, found and, you know, laid them out for districts yet. It's a complicated business. So, I'm not aiming to point a finger of blame here. What I'm aiming to do is make sure that the good policies that we've found are put in place in as many districts as possible.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, if you have found good policies and you have addressed it with the State Board of Education, why are not those policies put into effect?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, as my good colleague is aware, we are in the midst of a challenging time in terms of the State budget, and if we were to go ahead and start mandating all of the steps we wanted the State Department to take when it comes to district turnaround and all the steps that we want certain struggling districts to take, those would be mandates that would have costs, and if we didn't find the dollars for them, they would be unfunded mandates, which I know are anathema to most people in this Chamber at this point. So, what we're doing is seeking to provide forms of guidance that will be usable for the State Department and for the districts that come to it with their Turnaround Plans.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, does the State Board of Education know the problems that we've had, and do they know that there are some schools that are doing better than others?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, no and yes.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that doesn't sound like an answer, it's no and yes. We have a State Board of Education that is in charge. I would like to know, through the proponent, why they have not made changes to the schools that are not doing well when they know which schools are doing really good.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I'd like to again just draw the attention of my good colleague and those in the Chamber to the fact that this measure focuses on district-level change. School-level change is the responsibility of district leaders, not the State Board of Education, not the State Department of Education. You're supposed to have a school board, school superintendent, and leadership teams that develop the best plan for the district, which is what this measure is about.

When it comes to individual school performance, there actually is a program that the State Department of Education oversees for Vanguard Schools. They draw attention to I think it's a dozen schools a year that are outstanding performers, and they do their -- they have a summit, and they invite folks from around the state to come and learn about these Vanguard Schools, which are -- some are neighborhood public schools, some are magnet schools, some are charter schools. It's a whole variety of schools with great performance, and they invite people to come and learn about their best practices.

But it's -- getting widespread adoption of best practices is easier said than done, and this measure before us will make it easier once the bill's enacted than it is today.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, once again, does he feel that the State Board of Education is not worthwhile having in this state?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Fleischmann.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I've never made such a statement, nor do I feel that's the case. What I do think may underlie that question and may be a sentiment that the two of us agree on is that the ultimate policymakers in this state are members of the Connecticut General Assembly. If our school districts across the state aren't doing what they ought to do, it's incumbent upon us, and no one but us, to try and get to the bottom and give direction to our departments as to how to make things better. That's what this measure would do.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, Mr. Speaker, I am on the Board -- on the Education Committee, and what the proponent said was that the State Board of Education cannot make those decisions, it's up to us. We are not the State Board of Education. We are not the Board of Education in any towns. We are a committee within this state, and yes, we can make a number of laws that are valuable and can help, but we already have in position the State Board of Education and Boards of Education at every level. There is no need for a law to be made when they know the facts. All they have to do is one thing; do their job. And that's what he should be saying.

It's time for the State Board of Education to do its job and control the teaching of our children in this state. We are not the number one state, and had we spent our money properly, we would've been the number one state. And, in fact, in the whole United States, we are 35th in the world as far as education goes.

So, it's time for us to say it's not up to us people here, the State Legislature, to make the law -- it is for us to make the law, but we have already have a law in place. It's up to the Board of -- State Board of Education and each of the Board of Educations to do their job and do it right. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to the proponent of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Thank you, Sir. Representative Soto of the 39th District.

REP. SOTO (39TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I rise in strong support of this bill. I want to thank our House Chair and our House Ranking Member on the Education Committee for opening this dialogue. This is a good example of good legislation that is based on best practices, and that's something that we don't see too often when we can put things into statue that's based on best practices. I'm also proud that our district, New London Public School District, was one of the three districts that was included in that. And so, again, I thank our House Chair and our Ranking Member for opening the dialogue, for putting something forward that's based on best practice, and then I also want to thank them for going back to the legislation because it did have a fiscal note, working back through the legislation to make sure that that fiscal note was reduced or removed so that way we didn't stop good legislation from happening because of our financial situation that we're in.

So, I urge my colleagues to support, and thank you again.

DEPUTY SPEAKER MORRIS (140TH):

Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take your seats? The machine will be opened. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted?

If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote's been properly cast.

If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked, and the Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 7251, as amended by House “A”,

Total Number Voting 149

Necessary for Passage 75

Those voting Yea 137

Those voting Nay 12

Those absent and not Voting 2

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill is passed as amended.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call House Calendar No. 526?

CLERK:

On page 41, House Calendar 526, Substitute Senate Bill No. 808, AN ACT INCREASING THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF INSURANCE COVERAGE REQUIRED TO ISSUE A MOTOR VEHICLE OPERATOR'S LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE OF MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Insurance and Real Estate.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ritter.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Mr. Speaker, I move that we recommit this bill. Thank you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Is there objection to re-committal? Is there objection to re-committal? Seeing none, so ordered.

(Gavel)

Representative Cook of the 65th District, for what purposes do you rise, Madam?

REP. COOK (65TH):

Well, good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. How are you?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good afternoon, Madam Deputy Speaker.

REP. COOK (65TH):

Mr. Speaker, we often have amazing guests in the House, and today we have a very special guest, and our special guest has brought some friends. Our former colleague, who we all miss dearly, Representative Willis, has come back to join us today, and she has brought some wonderful ladies from the Northwest Corner Democracy First group. So, she's been giving them the tour and showing them around our wonderful House here. So, if we could welcome our dear colleague and her friends. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Cook, former Representative Willis looks very relaxed now on retirement.

REP. COOK (65TH):

Mr. Speaker, I believe if we have all had the opportunity to rest as much as she had, we would look as restful as she does. [laughter]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Very true, Madam. Are there any other announcements or introductions? Announcements or introductions? Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 169?

CLERK:

Page 11, House Calendar 169, House Bill No. 5963, AN ACT CONCERNING TREATMENT OR CARE PROVIDED BY RELIGIOUS NONMEDICAL PROVIDERS UNDER HEALTH INSURANCE POLICIES OR HEALTH BENEFIT PLANS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Insurance and Real Estate.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Scanlon of the 98th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good afternoon.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Scanlon, please proceed.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Clerk is in possession of an amendment, LCO 7760. I would ask the Clerk to please call the amendment and that I be granted leave of the chamber to summarize.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the Clerk please call LCO No. 7760, which will be designated as House Amendment Schedule "A".

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule "A", LCO No. 7760, offered by Representative Scanlon and Representative Sampson.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection to summarization? Hearing none, Representative Scanlon, please proceed.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. This amendment simply strikes the original bill and implements a strike-all amendment that raises the minimum amount of auto insurance that was introduced by both myself and my good friend, the Ranking Member, Representative Sampson, and I move adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question before the chamber is adoption. Will you remark further? Will you remark further? Representative Sampson.

REP. SAMPSON (80TH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Good afternoon, Sir.

REP. SAMPSON (80TH):

So, I want to just encourage my colleagues to support the amendment before us. We -- this amendment will become the bill, and we will have the discussion once it's adopted, and I encourage my colleagues to support it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Further on House "A"? Further on House "A"? If not, I'll try your minds. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Opposed. The ayes have it. Amendment is adopted. Further on the bill as amended? Representative Scanlon, further.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Again, this was a strike-all amendment that was introduced by myself and Ranking Member Sampson, and basically what this bill does is that since 1971, 15 full years before I was even on this earth, our minimum insurance standards have been the same for auto insurance. And this year in Committee, on a bipartisan basis, we decided that it was time to raise those limits from $ 20,000 dollars per person, $ 40,000 dollars per accident, and $ 10,000 dollars in property damage, to $ 25,000 dollars per person, $ 50,000 per accident, and $ 25,000 per property damage.

I can go through the list of things that've gone up in price since 1971, but I think everyone pretty much catches the drift here of what we're trying to do, and this bill simply protects motorists by fully compensating them for their injuries, medical care that they might need, and property damage that might be incurred. It's a good consumer bill, and I all -- ask all of my colleagues to support the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Scanlon. Representative Sampson, further on House "A".

REP. SAMPSON (80TH):

Good afternoon again, Mr. Speaker, and thank you very much. I want to just thank the good Chairman of the Insurance Committee for his efforts, working with me on this bill since the beginning of the session. He did a pretty good job of explaining exactly what's happening here, which is that we are changing and updating the minimum requirement for automobile liability insurance in our state. As he mentioned, it's been many, many years since this has been modified. And this is the kind of legislation that has come before us several times in recent years, and we haven't been able to come to a real agreement about where we should go with it. There are certainly folks that believe that we should increase this minimum requirement much more substantially, but there's always a delicate balance between making our minimum requirement something that is sufficient in as many cases as possible without also driving up the cost of insurance to a degree that might prevent or prohibit someone who would purchase insurance from making the decision not to.

As a result, we have come up with this compromise, which is to increase our limit a relatively small amount, although it does significantly change the required amount of property damage insurance that is required in our state. This goes from $ 20,000 dollars per person for bodily injury liability protection to $ 25,000, and then per occurrence, which would be in case more than one person was injured, from $ 40,000 dollars to $ 50,000 dollars. But where the big change is, is increasing the property damage liability from $ 10,000 dollars to $ 25,000 dollars. Considering that even a modest newer vehicle today could easily exceed $ 10,000 dollars in damage, going to $ 25,000 dollars makes a lot of sense.

Again, there are probably a lot of people who would say that we should have even higher minimum requirements in the state, but you do have to be careful that you don't increase it so much that you prevent people from making any purchase of insurance at all, and I believe this is an excellent compromise, and I'm very, very pleased that I've had the cooperation of people of all across this building in making this happen, and I encourage everyone to support the bill going forward. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Sampson. Further on House "A"? Representative Smith on House "A". Smith -- Mr. -- Representative Smith on House "A".

REP. SMITH (108TH):

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

The bill as amended. The bill as amended. Thank you.

REP. SMITH (108TH):

Yes, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I'm one of those who would favor the increase more than what we're seeing here this afternoon. I think $ 25,000 dollars is a step in the right direction, but in my mind, it's still very significantly lower than where it should be. $ 25,000 dollars today in terms of injuries or loss is very easily obtainable, and most times, any type of motor vehicle accident, you far exceed that number. So, I congratulate my colleagues for getting this bill to where it is.

I encourage the Committee, which I do not sit on, to continue to look at this. I know there are other states that actually have lower limits than what this is. I believe there are others out there as well. I think the cost of insurance doesn't increase that much, based on my personal knowledge, from $ 25,000 dollars to a $ 50,000 dollar policy. I think it's affordable. I think it's something we should strive for. I think it only protects the consumers who are out there who are driving.

So, I'll certainly support the bill because it goes in the right direction, but I would hope the Committee continue to pursue it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLO (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Smith. Representative O'Dea of the 125th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. O'DEA (125TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Good to see you up there.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Sir.

REP. O'DEA (125TH):

I just want to stand in support of this bill and this amendment, and join my colleagues in stating that, frankly, in 1972, when the initial limit was set at $ 20,000 dollars, there was some logic behind it. People looked at, you know, how much is somebody going to be injured; that should be the minimum amount of insurance somebody should have. Well, that amount in 2017 is the equivalent to $ 117,000 dollars. So, the minimum limits we had in 1971 is the equivalent to the minimum damages in -- of $ 100,000 dollars here.

So, this is a great first step. I appreciate the Ranking Member and the Chair, the Committee, in taking this first step, and I would urge my colleagues to support this amendment. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative O'Dea. Representative Ferraro of the 117th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, I have a question for the proponent of the bill.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Please proceed, Sir.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

In reading through the bill and looking at the history of the indemnity type of coverage that has been for the last 45 years, I can see the need for increasing the amount of coverage. My question just simply is, and I've heard reference to the minimal amount of cost the -- an insurance policy would go up as a result of increasing the limits -- I would just like to know from the proponent of the bill what type of increase can we expect on a per-policy basis?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Scanlon.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Through you, Madam [sic] Speaker, I don't have an exact dollar figure, but in my conversations with the representatives of the industry, I would expect no increase to an incredibly minimal increase.

Through you, Madam [sic] Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Madam [sic]. Representative Ferraro.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the kind gentleman for his answers, but I know that when someone says incredibly minimal, that's a relative term. To some people, incredibly minimal could be incredibly a lot. So, I'm just wondering if at some point the kind gentleman across the aisle could get something more definitive with regards to how much the consumer can expect their policy to increase by increasing the limits in the policy.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Scanlon.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I will attempt to get the gentleman an answer to that question and will proceed from there.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ferraro.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I look forward to hearing what the proponent of the bill would find in his research. Thank you very much.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Ferraro. Representative Vail of the 52nd, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. VAIL (52ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and if I can, just a few comments on this bill. And to answer Representative Ferraro's question, I am in the insurance business, and it is very miniscule. I asked that question to the insurance companies myself during the public hearing, and they didn't -- I asked for that same information, and they couldn't get me -- 'cause it fluctuates from person to person based on their different insurance credit scores and stuff like that. So, I haven't received that information yet, but as an agent and doing quotes, even if you go up to the $ 150 [sic] dollar or $ 100 [sic] dollar, it's a very miniscule increase in premium 'cause the risk comes from the initial accident itself.

But I stand in support of this bill as amended. I, too, think the limit should be a little bit higher, but both sides came together, and I want to commend the Chairman and the Ranking Member for working on that, and they found something that worked for both sides, and I just want to stand in support of that, and I encourage my colleagues to vote for it. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Vail. Representative Ackert of the 8th District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. ACKERT (8TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good to see you there. Through you, just a question to the proponent of the bill that's been amended.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Please proceed, Sir.

REP. ACKERT (8TH):

Thank you, and just for my own knowledge, and I do appreciate your work on this and Representative Sampson's work on this also. I've been beleaguered that it was always been so low in the past. But in case of an accident, essentially, if the person that hits you, their fault, and their insurance pays up to that limit; is that correct?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Scanlon.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Through you, Madam [sic] Speaker, that is correct.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ackert.

REP. ACKERT (8TH):

And thank you, Mr. Speaker. I -- then, through you, one more question: After that, then your personal insurance policy, if there's any additional damage that needs to be fixed, kind of will take -- pick up the slack on that.

Through you, Mr. Speaker, is that correct?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Scanlon.

REP. SCANLON (98TH):

Through you, Madam [sic] Speaker, that is correct.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ackert.

REP. ACKERT (8TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand in support of this moving up even though it's marginally. I support it substantially more in terms of it moving up, as somebody that has been in situations like this that somebody has hit a car or one of my work vans, something along that line, and my insurance company, obviously, did pick up the rest with no additional cost to me. At least I did appreciate that from my own personal insurance company. But I think it's moving in the right direction, but I believe it still has further to go. I will support this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Ackert. Representative Wilson of the 66th District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. WILSON (66TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and just a comment along the same lines as my colleagues. As Representative O'Dea said, he thought that this was a step in the right direction. I'm just wondering why we don't step it up to that $ 100,000 dollar limit in value compared to where we were in 1972. That's the first part of my observation.

The second part is it would seem to me that the price question -- the premium increase question could be answered kind of simply by what's the median premium for the minimum policy size today, and then the actuaries could very easily calculate the median premium for that increase. And I think that's an important question for us to know. But I will be voting for this amendment this afternoon.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Wilson. Further on the bill as amended? Further on the bill as amended? If not, staff and guests, please retire to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. Machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Please check the board to make sure your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked. Would the Clerk please take and announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Bill 5963, as amended by House "A":

Total Number Voting 150

Necessary for Passage 76

Those Voting Yea 150

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent and Not Voting 1

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

The bill as amended passes.

(Gavel)

Would the Clerk please call House Calendar -- oops, one moment, Representative Lemar. Are there any announcements or points of personal privilege? Representative Bocchino of the 150th.

REP. BOCCHINO (150TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise --

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

You have the floor, Sir.

REP. BOCCHINO (150TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for an introduction.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Please proceed.

REP. BOCCHINO (150TH):

Thank you, Sir. With us today, from the Greenwich Delegation, we have -- or I should say with the Greenwich Delegation today, we have with us Bruce McGuire, President of the Greenwich Hedge Fund Association, and James Aiello from MAC Advisors, but accompanying them today is Mr. Tau Guo from Hangzhou, China, which is just outside of Shanghai, and he's visiting us today in a sister relationship with the town of Greenwich to look at how we operate and work our hedge fund corporations, so -- and we've signed yesterday with the First Selectman of the Town of Greenwich an agreement upon a sister city. So, we'd love to have everyone please give a warm welcome to Mr. Guo. [applause]

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, very much, Representative. I look forward to a long and outstanding relationship. Thank you, Sir. Further announcements or points of personal privilege? Seeing none, Representative Lemar, prepare yourself. Would the Clerk please call House Calendar 542?

CLERK:

On page 44, House Calendar 542, Substitute Senate Bill No. 944, AN ACT CLARIFYING THE CONTINUATION OF NONCONFORMING USES, BUILDINGS, OR STRUCTURES. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Planning and Development.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Lemar from the Elm City, you have the floor.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill in concurrence with the Senate.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question before the Chamber is passage of the bill in concurrence with the Senate. Please proceed, Sir.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the bill before us protects the rights of property owners to change or remodel or repair a structure that is considered to be nonconforming. It brings clarity to the zoning process, and instead of having zoning boards having very vastly different regulations in how they apply a nonconforming use, this brings clarity to the statute.

Mr. Speaker, the Clerk is in possession of an amendment, LCO No. 7276. I ask that the Clerk please call the amendment, and I be given permission to summarize.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Would the clerk please call LCO 7276, previously designated Senate "A".

CLERK:

Senate Amendment Schedule "A", LCO No. 7276, offered by Senator Cassano, Senator Logan.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

The good Representative from the New Haven has leave of the Chamber to summarize. Is there objection to summarization? Objection? Seeing none, proceed.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the amendment eliminates the provision in the underlying bill that established a five-year deadline by which property owners must act to preserve a nonconforming use. It also adds the provisions clarifying the current laws' protections from nonconforming uses, structures, and buildings. I move for adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question before the Chamber is adoption of Senate "A". Will you remark further? Will you remark further? Representative Zawistowski, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. ZAWISTOWSKI (61ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You nailed it the first shot. Mr. Speaker, this amendment does provide additional property owner protections. It's a good amendment, and I do recommend its passage. I'll -- I will reserve any further comments until we talk about the underlying bill. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative. Further on Senate "A"? Further on -- Representative Dubitsky of the 47th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. DUBITSKY (47TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this amendment actually corrects the problem that I had with the bill in Committee, so I encourage my colleagues to vote for it. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative. Nice to be listened to occasionally. Thanks for your help on the bill. Further on the amendment? Further on the amendment? If not, I'll try your minds. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Any opposed? Hearing none.

(Gavel)

Amendment is adopted.

Further on the bill as amended? Further on the bill as amended? If -- Representative Zawistowski.

REP. ZAWISTOWSKI (61ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to clarify that the property owner has a prop -- an existing use and a municipality changes zoning regs to make that use no longer conforming, this will protect the property owner, and I think that's important for people to know. And municipalities will be able to adopt regulations terminating that nonconforming uses only under very restrictive situations and not just on redestruction [sic] of the property. It's a great bill. It does protect property owners, and I do recommend that my colleagues support it. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative. Further on the bill as amended? Representative Dunsby of the 135th.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

You have the floor.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Just a question for the proponent of the bill.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Please proceed, Sir.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

So, I'm just reading this. So, on the whole, this seems to make sense, but just so I can get some sense of clarification, through you Mr. Speaker, I mean, the language was relatively brief, discusses the structure or any part -- or any part thereof is demolished, deconstructed, etc. , so that's the deconstruction part, and then on the rebuilding or repair part, it talks about restructuring or improving. So, is it the case that if someone, say -- I don't know -- tore down a kitchen or something like that and then rebuilt it, that would still have to -- while they would be guaranteed the right of use, they would still have to conform with setbacks and other zoning regulations which do not necessarily impinge the use, but might be less than the person doing the project would like?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. That could have a multitude of applications. The expansion of a nonconforming use is allowed as a general right. This does not impact the, you know -- if you're taking a kitchen down or repairing the kitchen, the expansion of that kitchen should not infringe -- should not be infringed upon because of its use as a kitchen. All right? So the use will run consistent with the land in perpetuity so long as that use is not voluntarily discontinued by the property owner. And I think that answers the question.

If the question is more in line with, you know, other zoning laws regulating setbacks and distance from adjoining property owners, then current -- the municipality's current zoning regulations still have the right to review that application as it comes in for any necessary changes and variances it may need.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Dunsby.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you very much, Sir. Representative Smith of the 100 --

REP. SMITH (108TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

You're welcome.

REP. SMITH (108TH):

Just a question, through you, to the proponent, please.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Please proceed.

REP. SMITH (108TH):

Thank you. So just looking at what really constitutes intent to abandon. So if you take the building down entirely, and you leave it there for a few years without doing a single thing to it, does that in and of itself constitute intent, or is there something more that's required?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, tearing down the building and not doing anything with it does not necessarily constitute intent to abandon. It could be that the building was taken down for health and safety reasons, but the use of that building and the intent to re-use that site for its -- the prior use remains with the property owner.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Smith.

REP. SMITH (108TH):

Thank you, and so what then does constitute the intent to abandon?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Through you, I do have language. There is a specific criteria. If you'll hold with me for just a moment, I will find the specific criteria. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, through you, through court agreement through court cases, courts have found that to establish abandonment, it must be proven that the owner voluntarily discontinued the nonconforming use and that such voluntary discontinuance was accompanied by an intent to never reestablish that use. So it has to be clear that the owner never intended to reestablish that use. That is a discontinuance. It is not if you just tear down the building or if you don't use it for that intended use for a period of time.

This ensures that in case of many of our older industrial areas there may be factory buildings or light industrial uses that the building itself is no longer relevant to that use, but the property owner would like to reestablish that type of use in that building, the building needs to come down, they were afraid that they would be prohibited from reopening that type of use at that location. So, the building would stand in perpetuity at a high cost to both the host municipality and the property owner, what oftentimes prevented a productive re-use of a prior use at that location.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Smith.

REP. SMITH (108TH):

I thank the Chairman for that answer. So it sounds to me then that the intent that's required here is really subject to interpretation, probably something that ultimately would be decided either by Zoning Board of Appeals perhaps or if it got to a Superior Court or Appellate Court level because there's really nothing definitive as I can see in this statute or the proposed legislation that defines intent other than what the person intended at the time, and we won't really know that until we get into the specifics of his or her mind. Do I have that correct?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, through you, you have that correct.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Smith.

REP. SMITH (108TH):

It's good to be correct now and then, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the good gentleman for his answers.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Sir. Thank you for your participation. Further on the bill as amended? Further on the bill as amended? If not, staff and guests, please retire to the well of the House. Members take your seats. Machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Please check the board to make sure your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked. Would the Clerk please take a tally? And would the Clerk please announce the tally.

CLERK:

Senate Bill 944, as amended by Senate "A" in concurrence with the Senate:

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 144

Those Voting Nay 2

Absent and Not Voting 5

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Bill as amended is passed.

(Gavel)

Are there any announcements or points of personal privilege? Any announcements? Birthdays? Anniversaries? Special events? Representative Betts, we can always count on you. Thank you for breaking the silence.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. That was such a generous open offer. I was not able to make the first vote, and I was wondering, in your spirit of generosity, whether you could put me down as a yes on the first vote even though I was physically not in the building in all honesty. [laughter]

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

I'll give it my best effort, Representative.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Thank you so much, Sir, and may you stay in that chair for a long time.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

But the clerks down below are saying no, but I'll give it my -- I'll try to talk to him. Thank you. Further? Further? Not a very inventive crowd here. House will stand at ease.

House is now in order. Representative Morris, for what purpose do you rise?

REP. MORRIS (140TH):

Mr. Speaker, yes, I was out of the Chamber during that last vote. Had I been present, my vote would've been cast in the affirmative and ask that the journal be so noted. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you very much. Transcript will so note. Thank you very much, Representative Morris. Are we ready to proceed? Representative Albis.

REP. ALBIS (99TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for the suspension of the rules for the immediate consideration of the following resolutions: Calendar Nos. 551, 552, 553, 554, 555, 556, 557, 558, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, and 564. They are all one star on today's Calendar.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

The motion for the Chamber is suspension of the rules to take up these items. Is there objection? Is there objection? Is there objection? Seeing none, so ordered, granted.

Are we ready to go? Representative Tong, are you ready? Would the Clerk please call House Calendar 555?

CLERK:

On page 2, House Calendar 555, House Joint Resolution No. 121, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF MARGARET M. MURPHY, ESQUIRE, OF WEST HARTFORD TO BE A JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong from the former Lock City, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question before the Chamber is adoption of the resolution. Will you remark, representative Tong?

REP. TONG (147TH):

Yes, thank you. Before us is the nomination of Margaret Mary Murphy to the Superior Court. She's a graduate of the UConn School of Law, Mount Holyoke College. I think what's most impressive about this nominee is that on the Judiciary Committee in recent years we've tried to focus on the diversity of our nominees not just in their personal backgrounds, but also in their professional experience. She brings to her nomination and potentially to the bench a great varied experience as a lawyer in administrative appeals, administrative hearings. She's done a lot of work on Medicare hearings and appeals, and in elder law. Also, she has extensive experience in federal and state tax issues, and in trusts and estates. So, she's a little bit different than the nominees that we see. We think that's a good thing, and because of that, she was approved unanimously by the Judiciary Committee. I urge adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Tong. Further on this resolution? Representative Rebimbas of the 70th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Good afternoon.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the nominee before us. Certainly, as the good Chairman had indicated, she doesn't come from your typical background, but we like to make sure that we do have a diverse professional background, and certainly, when she presented before us, she was completely capable and does have the background necessary in order to make her an asset to our Judicial Branch. So, I do rise in her support.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Rebimbas. Representative O'Dea, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. O'DEA (125TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I stand in strong support of this candidate. Her husband, Michael Gustafson, was a mentor of mine at my old firm, and Attorney Gus -- Attorney Murphy will make an excellent judge in Superior Court. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative O'Dea. Representative Ziobron from the Bell Town, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Good afternoon, Madam.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

I rise with several questions regarding the urgency of these appointments and have several members from my good colleague from across the aisle on exactly what we are voting on here in its totality, not necessarily just on this specific nomination, Mr. Speaker. How much is the salary for one of these judges?

Through you.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, I believe it's $ 100 --

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

House will stand at ease.

House will come back to order. Representative Ziobron, you have the floor.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. So again, I'll ask the question again maybe framed a different way. Based on this nominee's qualifications, what is a typical salary of an appointment for a judgeship like this?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong, do you care to answer?

REP. TONG (147TH):

I believe that the salary of a Superior Court Judge is $ 167,000 dollars plus benefits.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate that information. I'm not a user of the court system, I'm not an attorney as well, but it's my understanding just with some layman experience that each judge requires a support staff as well. So, through you, what would a nomination of this particular person require for support staff for -- to support the appointment in this judgeship?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I don't think it's possible to quantify, at least on the fly, on a judge-by-judge basis what the support staff cost would be. I believe that most support staff functions at the State Court level are shared.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and so when we are faced with these kinds of decisions here in the Chamber for nominations of judgeships, I'm always wondering is there a vacancy that this is filling, is it a retirement. So, in this particular case, through you, Mr. Speaker, how are we finding ourselves to nominate? Was it a replacement, retirement, or something else?

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, it's my understanding that we have roughly 40 vacancies that remain unfilled based on judicial offices that were previously held. As a technical matter, nominees are nominated to replace somebody who is retiring or has otherwise vacated their office, and if you look at the nomination form for this nominee, she has been nominated to replace the Honorable Robert J. Malone, who reached the age of mandatory retirement.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and since reaching that age of retirement, does the judge that this nominee would be replacing, are they still -- do they still have a role in the Judicial Branch?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, if they should choose to continue, and provided that they are re-nominated and confirmed in the normal process, they may proceed to be a trial referee in the Superior Court, and that is -- that's subject to availability and to there being sufficient work.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

So, on this point, just to follow up, so is there ever a case where -- for instance, I know my good friend the Chairwoman of the Appropriation Committee talks a lot about consultants, DOT hiring back employees and paying people twice for the same job. So, in this aspect, are we sometimes paying a former judge to have this kind of a referee position? So, are we paying two judges at the same time for different work?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, I do not believe that we pay trial -- judge trial referees and Superior Court judges at the same time for the same work.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I spent some time this morning, Mr. Speaker, reading the testimony from the Judiciary meeting, and I came across testimony from AFSCME, the same folks, I think, that were here this morning, and pieces of their testimony resonated with me. For instance, Mr. Speaker, one is that they can find no record of the Judicial Branch requesting the large number of judges that we may be looking at voting on today. If the good Representative could tell me, is that a true statement in the testimony of the Union, that in fact there's been no request through Judicial Department for these judges?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I don't have that testimony in front of me. I don't doubt that the Ranking Member of the Appropriations Committee is correct in her recitation of that testimony. I am not aware, in my 11 years on the Judiciary Committee, that there's generally a request made by the Judicial Branch for vacancies to be filled. I don't believe that's a custom.

As the Ranking Member of the Appropriations Committee knows, they are a co-equal, separate branch of government. They're independent largely from us, and -- but we have a role, and we're discharging that role right now. The Governor has a role, and his role is to nominate judges for the Superior Court. Our job is to review and confirm those nominations, but I don't think there's a request made that nominations be filled.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate that background because, again, as I stated earlier, I'm certainly not an attorney and don't have that inner knowledge since I've never served on the Judiciary Committee, but certainly, the seat I have looking at what's happening within our state, reviewing the testimony of many union employees through our public hearing process talked a lot about the thinning of the ranks in the Judiciary Department and their concern about security, their concern about the actual floor staff, the support staff I asked about earlier, the clerks, martials. I've heard about those concerns, which is why I stand today asking about the fiscal impact of the votes that we're taking today.

Again, these are all people fully qualified, good people, deserving of consideration. That's not my issue today. Mr. Speaker, my issue is what is the overall effect of these nominations, and how does that affect the Judiciary Department, which has been really targeted for multimillions of dollars of budget cuts? So, I understand that the judge is about $ 167,000 dollars a year. We don't know for sure what the support staff cost is, that some of that is shared.

The security, though, is something I am concerned about, and I'm just curious. Is there a minimum mandate requirement regarding the amount of security for the amount of judges that might be in a building, or is it by a case? How is that allotment done through that process?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

That would be to Representative Tong, Madam?

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Sure. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong, do you -- you have the floor.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, again, the Judicial Branch is a separate branch of the government. Their security measures and their plan are their province, and I don't know the details of that off the top of my head.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and so I'm not going to belabor the point too much longer. This is not, for me, about, again, the qualifications of the people that we have before us, but in totality, we're really talking about potentially $ 5 million dollars, I think, of cost. I know through the testimony of the Judiciary Department to the Appropriations Committee there's been discussions of closing courthouses. That's on the record. That's official testimony that's been given to us through the appropriations process. And I'm worried about what these appointments will mean, and stress the overall system of justice that so many of our residents depend on.

And for that reason, Mr. Speaker, I'll be voting no on every single nomination today, and again, it's not because of their qualifications. It is about the effects of what we're doing and how it affects the fiscal house of Connecticut, and for that reason, I stand in objection. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Madam. Representative Polletta, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. POLLETTA (68YH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I'd just like to make a point on this issue and echo what my good colleague said a moment ago. We had, at the beginning of session today, some individuals that came in here today representing various unions in our state, and I'm just concerned that without a budget and within individuals scared of losing their jobs, why would we go forward and pay an individual $ 165,000 dollars a year for a position that perhaps does not need to be filled? I am concerned about this. The fiscal point of it is very disturbing to me, and I will be voting no. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Sir. Further on the resolution? If not, staff and guests, please retire to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by role. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. Clerk will take a tally. And Mr. Clerk, if you would, please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 121:

Total Number Voting 148

Necessary for Adoption 75

Those Voting Yea 132

Those Voting Nay 16

Absent and Not Voting 3

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Mr. Clerk, Calendar 551, please.

CLERK:

On page 1, House Calendar 551, House Joint Resolution No. 117, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF THE HONORABLE NINA F. ELGO OF WEST HARTFORD TO BE A JUDGE OF THE APPELLATE COURT AND A JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The distinguished Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Question is on adoption. Will you explain the resolution, please, Sir?

REP. TONG (147TH):

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a nomination to elevate Judge Elgo to the Appellate Court from the Superior Court on which she sits now. Judge Elgo is a graduate of Connecticut College and also the Georgetown University Law Center. Judge Elgo has impressed us on more than one occasion when she's been before the Committee as being very bright and fair-minded, but what really strikes me and many others is how strong and firm, and yet fair and accessible she appears to be. She did a great job during her hearing, and I believe that she will make an excellent Appellate Court jurist.

I should also note that in 2004, Judge Elgo became the first Asian Pacific American to serve as a judge on any of our courts, and today, it is my particular honor to lead the debate on her nomination to be the first Appellate Court judge in our state of Asian Pacific American descent. I urge adoption.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Sir. Distinguished Ranking Member of the Judiciary Committee, Representative Rebimbas.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the nominee before us. I think it's always refreshing when a nominee comes before us, and based on professional background and dedication and involvement in the legal profession, that it's someone who is well qualified, well respected, and certainly has earned this nomination. And I know that, again, she will be the first Asian Pacific American on the Appellate Court, and that would certainly not only bring the good Chairman great honor, but an honor to us all to see our Bench be diverse -- diversified as much as possible. Again, I rise in strong support of the nominee before us.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Madam. Representative Riley of the 46th.

REP. RILEY (46TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise as well in strong support of this nomination. Judge Elgo is from the Rose City, city of Norwich, and she has been -- I've watched her career grow from high school to college and serving here in the state of Connecticut, and I believe she'll be a great addition to the Appellate Court, and I'm sure she will give Judge Keller a -- Judge Keller will give her much advice there, if needed. But I certainly support the nomination, and I am honored to do so.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Sir. Representative Fishbein of the 90th.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I may, some questions for the proponent.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Proceed.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. -- we heard earlier that there was a need to have all these judges appointed because there were vacancies -- 40 vacancies, I believe was the reference. And I note that this nominee, it's proposed to serve in the Appellate Court as well as to fill in at the Superior Court, which from time to time happens. And I'm wondering if the proponent knows on how many occasions during, let's say, the last two years a judge of the Appellate Court has had to fill in in the Superior Court due to this many vacancies.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Tong, do you care to respond?

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, no I don't know the answer to that question.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Well, I would expect that it would be numerous occasions if we need to fill these many vacancies. Do we know of at least one occasion during the past year where it was necessary for an appellate judge to come down and fill in the Superior Court?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Tong, do you want to respond?

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I'm sorry, I'm having trouble hearing, Mr. Speaker. I did not hear the question.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

You're correct.

(Gavel)

Please take your conversations outside. We're having a little trouble following the debate.

Representative Fishbein, if you'd repeat your question, please, Sir.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm wondering if the good proponent of the bill and Chair of the Judiciary Committee knows of one occasion during the past year where a judge of the Appellate Court has had to come down and fill in as a judge of the Superior Court.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Tong, do you care to respond?

REP. TONG (147TH):

Through you, I do not.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you. You know, I echo the sentiments of my colleague, Representative Ziobron, here today, and I think, you know, the need for making all of these appointments would be indicative of -- or the need would be exemplified if the Appellate Court judges were having to go to the Superior Court all the time, and it doesn't appear to be the case. So, we'll get to that with the next nominee, but at this point, I rise in opposition to what is before us this afternoon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Will you remark further on the resolution? If not, staff and guests, please come to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted, please? Check the board to make sure your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked. Would the Clerk please take and announce a tally? Would the Clerk please announce a tally?

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 117:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 135

Those Voting Nay 12

Absent and Not Voting 4

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Resolution is adopted. (Gavel) Are there any announcements? Are there any announcements? Representative Miller. How are you this afternoon?

REP. MILLER (145TH):

I'm doing well. How are you today?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Wonderful, thank you. You have an announcement perhaps or an introduction?

REP. MILLER (145TH):

Yes, for point of introduction.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Please proceed, Madam.

REP. MILLER (145TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have with me today 14 magnificent youth from the Boys & Girls Club. The Boys -- since 1947, the Youth of the Year has been the Boys & Girls Club of America's Prime -- Premier -- Primier [sic], excuse me -- or Premier recognition program celebrating the extraordinary achievement of club members. The Youth of the Year members embody the values of leadership and service, academic excellence, and healthy lifestyles. They are examples of the critical impact that the Boys & Girls Club have on the lives of young people.

And let me add, if it wasn't for an organization like the Boys & Girls Club, my life would've looked entirely different. I could've been one of those youths, young mothers, that was a teenage mom. I could have been strung out on drugs, but it's because of organizations like the Boys & Girls Club that took me off the street and showed me a different life that I can stand here today in the General Assembly before you.

So please join me in welcoming the 14 Youth of the Year from the birthplace of the Boys & Girls Club movement, our very own state of Connecticut. And if you would entertain me -- allow me to entertain you for a moment -- you entertain me for a moment, I would like to introduce them. So, we have Catalina Carmona from Ridgefield Boys & Girls Club. We have Daniel Brey of Boys & Girls Club of Redding-Easton. I didn't even know they had one in Redding-Easton. Denny -- Danny, I'm sorry -- Danny Ruiz of the Boys & Girls Club of Greater Waterbury. We have Gabrielle Galletta of Wakeman Boys & Girls Club. It's hard for me to hear myself, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. We have Jarelyn Sandoval from the Ulbrich Boys & Girls Club, Jillian Maghini from the Bristol Boys & Girls Club Association, Julie Myers from the Boys & Girls Club of Milford. It's still hard for me to hear myself, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

You're coming through loud and clear, Representative Miller.

REP. MILLER (145TH):

But the chatter that I'm getting --

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Trust me, you're loud and clear. Thank you.

REP. MILLER (145TH):

Thank you. Kevin Harris of the Boys & Girls Club of New Britain, Mackenzie Vargas of the Boys & Girls Club of Stamford, Nico Venegas of the Boys & Girls Clubs of Greenwich, Jazaira Selena Perez-Acevedo the Boys & Girls Club of Hartford, Zachary Cleetus of the New London Naval Submarine Base, Z'hane Ellison of the Boys & Girls Club of New Haven, Sabrina Maldonado of the Lower Naugatuck Boys & Girls Club.

And so, before we give them a round of applause to thank them and to recognize them, I just want to recognize the young lady from my district, and that is Mackenzie Vargas. She is the 2017 Youth of the Year from the Boys Club -- Boys & Girls Club in Stamford. So, I just want to say congratulations to you, a special congratulations. [applause]

MACKENZIE VARGAS:

Thank you.

REP. MILLER (145TH):

Thank you. So, if we can get up and welcome these young men and women who decide to focus on something positive. [applause] Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative, and welcome to all. Congratulations on your awards this evening. Enjoy the dinner and enjoy the hospitality of the Capitol. Thank you.

Would the Clerk please call Calendar 552?

CLERK:

On page 1, House Calendar 552, House Joint Resolution 118, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF MATTHEW J. BUDZIK, ESQUIRE, OF SIMSBURY TO BE A JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

From the Park City, Representative Stafstrom of the 129th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question before the Chamber is acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Please proceed, Sir.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, before we have the nomination of Matthew J. Budzik to be a judge of the Superior Court. Mr. Budzik is a very accomplished civil and ERISA litigator in our state, having served in private practice for many years after graduating from American University and the Georgetown University Law Center. For the last dozen years, he has been serving in our Attorney General Office handling some of the most complex and challenging cases for the Attorney General on behalf of our state and representing our state with distinction.

After 12 years, he informed the Committee he is ready to take on a new challenge on the Superior Court Bench, and certainly, the Attorney General's Office loss will the Superior Court's gain by having such an accomplished litigator on our Superior Court Bench. I urge adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question for the Chamber is adoption. Representative Rebimbas from the 70th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the nominee before us, certainly, for all of the reasons that the good Vice Chairman had indicated, but when he appeared before the Judiciary Committee, he was very professional and responded to all the questions very eloquently, and again, I do believe that his background will be an asset to our Bench. So, I do rise in his support.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you. Thank you very much, Representative. Representative Riley of the 46th District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. RILEY (46TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I stand in strong support of Mr. Budzik's nomination. I've had the pleasure of knowing Matthew for an awful long time. We grew up next to each other in the city of Norwich. As the Vice Chairman of the Judiciary Committee had stated, it is a great loss for the Attorney General's Office, but it certainly is a wonderful addition to our court system, and I wish him all the best. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Riley. And Representative Fishbein of the 90th, you have the floor, Sir, on the resolution before us.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I may, some questions for the proponent.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

You may, certainly.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Sir. So this is a new appointment?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that is correct.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And whose place is this individual supposed to be filling?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative --

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Just a second, if I could.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

-- Stafstrom, you have the floor.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a second, if we could. We're looking for the transmittal letter from the Governor.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thanks to the Clerk for assistance. The Honorable Jorge Simon, who has elected to take Senior status.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

So that's Judge Simon, who's in the Hartford Superior Court, I believe, presently.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The questioner could be correct. I'm not familiar with the judge.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and Judge Simon shifting to a JTR as opposed to being a Superior Court judge. Is Judge Simon supposed to be getting a decrease in pay, or are we -- do they stay at the same pay?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my understanding is once a judge elects Senior status, they receive a per diem for the days in which they are asked to serve and come into court and hear cases.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And is there -- do we know what the maximum per diem that would be perhaps paid out to the retired Judge Simon under this process?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, through you, it's my understanding that JTRs can received up to $ 250 dollars per day.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

I'm just doing the calculation in my head. So that's approximately $ 60,000 dollars a year. We'll just assume that. So this is not, per se, a vacancy. Through you, Mr. Speaker; is that the case?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, no, I would not agree with that characterization. It is my understanding that per statutes and even perhaps per our Constitution, there are a certain number of Superior Court judges -- full Superior Court judges that are authorized. It is my understanding there are currently 40 vacancies among those ranks. Senior judges or JTRs do not count as part of those statutory positions.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Am I to understand, based upon the good Representative's response, that there's a mandate that we have a certain number of Superior Court judges in this state, or there's an authorization of the maximum amount?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I believe it is an authorization.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Are there some duties that a JTR is unable to accomplish or deal with that a Superior -- regular Superior Court judge is able to deal with?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, it's my experience in the courts that a JTR is not allowed to try a case without the agreement of the parties thereto.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll represent that there is a rule there that says that, but they never give me a choice, so I've certainly done JTR trials many times without authorization. But is it fair to say that fiscally, if we have a person who's shifting, doing basically the same duties, but getting half the pay, that that would be of benefit to the State fiscally, but then to appoint another person to do the same kind of work at double the pay is a lot of money? Perhaps that's by way of comment. That's not really a question.

So, I remain opposed to what's before us here today. I have nothing against Attorney Budzik. I think he is appropriate for the Bench. I just don't think that it's appropriate -- has not been shown to me there are actually vacancies that need to be filled, haven't heard of one at this point. So thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Fishbein. Representative Orange of the 48th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. ORANGE (48TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of Matthew Budzik for judge of Superior Court. Matthew is an outstanding person. He's a fair person. He listens, and he's very thoughtful before making any decisions. I've known Matthew for quite a few years, and he lived in the town of East Haddam, which I represented for 16 years. He's served the town well on Boards and Commissions there, and I just wanted to rise in support. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Madam. Further on the resolution? Further on the resolution? If not, staff and guests, please retire to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Please check the board and make sure your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked. Would the Clerk please take and announce the tally -- as soon as I lock the machine, that is.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 118:

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 130

Those Voting Nay 16

Absent and Not Voting 5

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Representative Ritter of the 1st District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we immediately transmit Calendar Nos. 555, 551, and 552 to the Senate. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Motion to transmit. Is there objection? Is there objection, those three items? Seeing no objection, so ordered.

(Gavel)

Are there any announcements? Any announcements? Representative Porter of the 94th, you have the floor. You look like you just got back from the Master's Golf Tournament. [laughter]

REP. PORTER (94TH):

Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for the point of an introduction please.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Please proceed, Madam.

REP. PORTER (94TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to take a moment to recognize a group of educators from Educators for Excellence, or E4E, that are here with us today. Recently, I along with Commissioner Wentzell were lucky enough to take part in E4E Declaration Launch that celebrated teachers' voices. It was such an honor to be around such an amazing and diverse group of educators. Today, these teachers and educators have come up here after working all day in the classroom to advocate on behalf of better funding policies for our public schools. We also have with us today Teacher of the Year, from Kennedy School in the City of Hartford, Lauren Lieberman, and also Cynthia Scheetz, Faculty Mentor, First Robotics Team 558 from Career High School in New Haven; and so far this year, they've won New England Regionals and a State Championship, and they've also received special recognition Gracious Professionalism Award in St. Louis, Missouri. So, I would ask the Chamber to please give Miss Lieberman, Miss Cynthia Scheetz, and the rest of these great educators a round of applause and a warm welcome. [applause]

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Would the Clerk please call Calendar 553?

CLERK:

On page 2, House Calendar 553, House Joint Resolution No. 119, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF MATTHEW D. GORDON, ESQUIRE, OF WEST HARTFORD TO BE A JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Tong of the 147th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. TONG (147TH):

I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question for Chamber's acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Please proceed, Sir.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. The nomination of Attorney Gordon has come before the Judiciary Committee and was, I believe, well approved by the Committee. He's a graduate of Bard College and the University of Connecticut School of Law. He has been an active trial litigator, first working with Day, Berry, and Howard, and then later running his own firm, Matthew Dallas Gordon, LLC, since 2004. Attorney Gordon has also provided service to this chamber, working on a working group regarding smoke exposure to minors in vehicles, working with Representative Genga and Representative Kokoruda. He impressed us with his knowledge of the law and his temperament, and I think he'd make an excellent jurist. I urge adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Tong. Representative Rebimbas of the 70th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do rise in support of the nominee before us, Attorney Gordon. I was very impressed by his presentation to our committee, but also based on his application. This is an individual who not only, obviously, was practicing law, but has given back in a variety of different ways both to the community as well as the legal profession, and as the good Chairman just indicated, even served on a working group that he was appointed by the former speaker. In that regard, again, we want individuals that not only are going to be fair from the Bench, but that are going to continue to improve the Bench through education and involvement, and I think this is the kind of individual that we want serving us. So, I do rise in support of his nomination.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you so much for your comments, Madam. Further on the resolution? Representative O'Dea of the 125th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. O'DEA (125TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to briefly rise in support of this nominee. I tried a civil rights case with Attorney Gordon many years back, and one of the things that we look at when evaluating whether or not a person -- a lawyer would be a good judge is their temperament, and that's the hardest thing to judge. I can tell you from firsthand experience that Attorney Gordon will have no temperament issues when on the bud -- when on the Bench. He's humble, fair, and someone who I admire greatly. I would also add that his experience and his intellect will make him a very good addition to the Bench, and I urge my colleagues to support this nominee. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative O'Dea. Representative Fleischmann of the 18th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. FLEISCHMANN (18TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this nominee before us, and I'd like to echo the remarks of my good friend and colleague, Representative O'Dea. I have not ever been co-counsel with Attorney Gordon because I'm not a lawyer, but I have known him for years. He's a very well-respected resident of West Hartford, very civically engaged, and a truly thoughtful, humble, approachable person, the very type of person one would hope to see on the Bench if one were pulled into court for a legal matter. So, I hope the whole Chamber will join me in supporting this nomination.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Representative Fleischmann. Further on this resolution? Further on the resolution? If not, staff and guests, please retire to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Please check the board to make sure your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked. Would the Clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 119:

Total Number Voting 149

Necessary for Adoption 75

Those Voting Yea 133

Those Voting Nay 16

Absent and Not Voting 2

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar 554?

CLERK:

On page 2, House Calendar 554, House Joint Resolution No. 120, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF KIMBERLY A. KNOX, ESQUIRE, OF WEST HARTFORD TO BE A JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Representative Stafstrom of the Park City, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question before the Chamber is acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Please proceed, Sir.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The nomination before us is Attorney Kimberly Knox, who is an accomplished Appellate litigator in our state for many years. She is a graduate of Connecticut College and the University of Connecticut School of Law. Her professionalism and legal acumen certainly were demonstrated to the Committee during the hearing, and I would ask for her support here. I urge adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Question before the Chamber is adoption of the resolution. Representative Rebimbas of the 70th, you have the floor, Madam.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of Attorney Knox. Once again, she has a very good background, certainly served in a variety of different capacities regarding ethics as well. So, again, I do believe that she's going to be a great asset to the Bench. So, I rise in her support.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Thank you, Madam. Further on the resolution? Further on the resolution? If not, staff and guests, please retire to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Please check the board to make sure your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked. Would the Clerk please take a tally? And would the Clerk please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 120:

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 131

Those Voting Nay 15

Absent and Not Voting 5

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER ALTOBELLOW (82ND):

Resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Would the Clerk please call Calendar 556?

CLERK:

On page 2, House Calendar 556, House Joint Resolution No. 122, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF W. GLEN PIERSON, ESQUIRE, OF HAMDEN TO BE A JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Tong, please.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Representative Tong, you have the floor.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the nomination of Attorney Glen Pierson to the Superior Court. Attorney Pierson is a graduate of Princeton University and the Georgetown University Law Center, where he did some work in tax law on the law review. He also has worked as a writer, and in his practice as a lawyer, has served as a court-appointed fact finder and arbitrator in Superior Court. Attorney Pierson impressed us with his knowledge of the law and also his demeanor. He seems like a really nice guy, and for those reasons, I urge adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much, Representative. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? Representative Rebimbas from the 7th [sic], please. You have the floor, Ma'am.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good afternoon to you. I rise in support of the nominee before us. Certainly, he has an extensive civil litigation experience, and his demeanor, as the good Chairman had indicated, was very well received in our Judiciary Committee, and he has a background of providing pro bono legal services, which is something to be commendable. I think he'll be an asset to our Bench. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much, Representative Rebimbas. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take their sheets [sic]. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and, the Clerk will take a tally. Will the Clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 122:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 132

Those Voting Nay 15

Absent and Not Voting 4

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 557?

CLERK:

On page 2, House Calendar 557, House Joint Resolution No. 123, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF ELIZABETH J. STEWART, ESQUIRE, OF HAMDEN TO BE A JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Stafstrom, please.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good to see you up there, Sir.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Mr. Speaker, I move for acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Representative Stafstrom, you have the floor.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the nominee before us now is Elizabeth J. Stewart, who, again, is an accomplished attorney within our state, having served as the -- previously as the managing partner of one of our state's largest law firms. She is also a very accomplished civil litigator, having tried many cases throughout our state and federal courts. I believe she will bring a great deal of acumen and legal knowledge to the Bench. She is a graduate of the University of Virginia, undergrad as well as the School of Law. I urge adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? Representative Rebimbas, if you please.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the nominee before us for all of the reasons the good Vice Chairman just indicated. She is a scholar and she has a considerable federal law background experience in practice. So, I do rise in support of her nomination.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative Rebimbas. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? If not, will the staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take their seats. The machine will be open.

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. (Ringing)

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Have all member voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked, and the Clerk will take a tally.

Will the Clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 123:

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 130

Those Voting Nay 16

Absent and Not Voting 5

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 558?

CLERK:

On page 3, Calendar No. 558, House Joint Resolution No. 124, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF THE HONORABLE DAVID A. DEE OF AVON TO BE A FAMILY SUPPORT MAGISTRATE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Conley.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Representative Conley, you still have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I urge adoption of the reappointment of Judge David Dee. He is currently assigned as a support magistrate for Hartford, Litchfield, and New Britain. He's assigned to the courts of Hartford, Litchfield, and Rockville. He's been a judge since 2008, and attended Quinnipiac Law School. He does work in the community with the Family Support Magistrate Overlap Committee and the Achievement First Public Charter Schools. He's on the Board of Directors there. He's also a member of the Judges' Institute.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Representative Rebimbas from the 70th District, please.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do rise in support of the reappointment of Judge Dee. He has an extensive Family Support Magistrate experience, and he would continue to be an asset to our Bench. So, I do rise in his support of his reappointment.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much, Representative. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? Representative LeGeyt of the 17th, please.

REP. LEGEYT (17TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the re-nomination of Judge Dee. He is a constituent of mine and a strong and ethical jurist, and I -- I'm sure the state will be well-served by his reappointment. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? If not, will the staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take their seats? The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Have all member voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 124:

Total Number Voting 148

Necessary for Passage 75

Those Voting Yea 133

Those Voting Nay 13 [sic]

Absent and Not Voting 3

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 559?

CLERK:

On page 3, House Calender 559, House Joint Resolution No. 125, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF THE HONORABLE MICHAEL L. FERGUSON OF MERIDEN TO BE A FAMILY SUPPORT MAGISTRATE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Borer, you have the floor, please.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Mr. Speaker, I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Representative Borer, you have the floor.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the reappointment of Michael Ferguson to the Family Support Magistrate. The Honorable Michael Ferguson is a graduate of Central Connecticut and UConn Law School, and has been a member of the Bar in good standing since 1998. He was first appointed in 2011, and based on his record of service, has continually been reappointed since then. He is assigned to the matters in the Norwich and the Hartford Judicial Districts. Based on the Honorable Ferguson's years of service, his record in good standing and the critical need to make this reappointment, I urge support of this reappointment and move to adopt.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? From the 70th District, Representative Rebimbas, please.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the reappointment of Magistrate Ferguson. Certainly, he has served his position well, with distinction, and very professional, and I happen to have known him previously. I know that he's a very good guy and very honest. So, I do rise in his support.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? Representative Reyes of the 75th, please.

REP. REYES (75TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of Magistrate Michael Ferguson, who is a very, very strong supporter of the greater Waterbury community, and I know he resides in Meriden right now, but he is a Waterbury product and has been very, very strong, influential figure for the community of Waterbury and for a good role model for us there in the city of Waterbury. And I strongly support his nomination, and I thank the good Representative Borer for bringing out this nomination, and I support it 100 percent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Representative Butler of the 72nd, you have the floor, please.

REP. BUTLER (72ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise, too, in support of Magistrate Michael Ferguson. I know the Board lists him from being from Meriden, but he's really a Waterbury guy. [laughter] I've known him since he's been a teenager, and I can tell you that I've seen him grow up and become a very conscientious man to come and become a lawyer and see how he's grown, and actually, his years in working for other law firms, and then branching out on his own, to have his own law firm. And commitment to the community that he served and the work that he did was just outstanding.

I can tell you in 2011, when he first became a magistrate that he actually rose to a whole new level. They talk about temperament in terms of jurists and judges; I can tell you that he has just the right temperament and commitment to doing his job, and the state of Connecticut will be well served by him continuing as a magistrate for the state of Connecticut. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Further remarks? Representative Ferguson of the 138th District.

REP. FERGUSON (138TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and I rise. I've never met this Honorable Michael Ferguson, but coming from this State Representative Michael Ferguson, I have to say that seems like a great person. We don't share the same middle initial, but still seems like a great guy, and I wish this Honorable Michael Ferguson the best of luck. So, thank you very much for giving me this chance, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much Representative Ferguson. Any further remarks? Representative Santiago of the 84th District, please, Ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. SANTIAGO (84TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the nomination of Michael Ferguson. He is dedicated and committed to his community, both Meriden and Waterbury. So even though -- even though he was raised in Waterbury, he is my constituent, and he votes for me. [laughter] So I am very proud of that, and I am honored. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? Majority Leader Ritter of our 1st District, please, Sir.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Mr. Speaker, I don't know Mr. Ferguson. I'm not sure if he's watching, but he's not from Hartford, so I'm not so sure that I can support -- no, I'm just kidding. He seems like a great guy. Everybody's really happy. Let's vote on him. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? If not, will the staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take their seats? The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Have all member voted? Have all member voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked, and the Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 125:

Total Number Voting 145

Necessary for Adoption 73

Those Voting Yea 128

Those Voting Nay 17

Absent and Not Voting 6

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Are there any announcements or introductions? Any announcements or introductions? Representative Zupkus of the 89th, for what purpose do you rise, Ma'am?

REP. ZUPKUS (89TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for the point of introduction.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Please, you have the floor.

REP. ZUPKUS (89TH):

Thank you. I would like to welcome my friends here from the Connecticut Association of Nurse Anesthetists, which is a group of over 600 people. They're having an event upstairs, and I have with me today Chris Bartels, Octavio Goncalves, and Ilona -- oh, this is tough -- Reznitsky. So, I would hope that y'all would all help me welcome them to the Chamber. Thank you. [applause]

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Welcome to the Chamber, and thank you and your group for the good work you do. Any further announcements or introductions? Seeing none, we will return to the Calendar. Calendar No. 560.

CLERK:

On page 3, House Calendar 560, House Joint Resolution No. 126, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF THE HONORABLE FREDERIC GILMAN OF EAST HAMPTON TO BE A FAMILY SUPPORT MAGISTRATE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative de la Cruz, please.

REP. DE LA CRUZ (41ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Representative de la Cruz, you have the floor.

REP. DE LA CRUZ (41ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have the honor to nominate reappointment to the Honorable Frederic Gilman of East Hampton to be a Family Support Magistrate to serve a term of five years beginning September 6, 2017, and ending on September 5, 2022. Magistrate Gilman graduated from the University of New Haven with a bachelor's in science degree in '79, a master's degree in '87, and graduated from Vermont Law in 1991. He was admitted to Connecticut Bar in 1993. He is currently assigned to matters in the Norwich, Tolland, Rockville Judicial Districts. He was first appointed in 2011.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? From the 70th District, Representative Rebimbas, please, Ma'am.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise for the reappointment of Magistrate Gilman. Certainly, he comes with great experience and has served us well as -- in his position as magistrate. So, I encourage everyone to support his reappointment.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Ma'am. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? If not, will the staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take their seats? The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked, and the Clerk will take a tally.

Will the Clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 126:

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 132

Those Voting Nay 14

Absent and Not Voting 5

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 561?

CLERK:

On page 3, House Calendar 561, House Joint Resolution No. 127, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF THE HONORABLE NORMA I. SANCHEZ-FIGUEROA OF SOUTH WINDSOR TO BE A FAMILY SUPPORT MAGISTRATE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Conley of the 40th District, you have the floor, Ma'am.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution. Representative Conley, please, you have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Judge Sanchez-Figueroa is a current sitting judge on the Family Support Magistrate. She currently serves in Waterbury and Hartford, splitting her time biweekly on that trek. She's a graduate of Boston College Law School, and she is very well respected amongst her peers and her community. She's worked tirelessly in the community, and she's currently a member of several groups, including the Advisory Council, a participant for the Connecticut Fatherhood Initiative Strategic Plan, as well as the Judges' Institute.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Would you care to remark further? Representative Rebimbas, please, Ma'am.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the reappointment of the Magistrate before us for all of the reasons that the good committee member had indicated. So, I do rise in support.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Representative Delnicki of the 14th, please.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Good evening, Mr. Speaker. I rise to support the reappointment of Judge Sanchez-Figueroa. She's a respected member of the community, and I look forward to voting in favor of it. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Sir. Would you care to remark further? Would you care to remark further on the resolution before us? If not, will the staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take their seats? The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK
The House of Representatives is voting by roll
. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. Clerk will take a tally. And the Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 127:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 133

Those Voting Nay 14

Absent and Not Voting 4

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The resolution's adopted.

(Gavel)

Representative Staneski, I understand you have an announcement.

REP. STANESKI (119TH):

I do. Good evening, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Good evening.

REP. STANESKI (119TH):

And thank you for this personal privilege. I just would like to give a shout out to my daughter, Hope, who is watching from home. My daughter -- many of you have heard me say I'm not an attorney, but I'm getting one in the family. My daughter is a law student at Duke, and she is doing an internship in Maine, where she went to school for undergraduate. She had one night that she could stop at home in Connecticut. Tonight is it. Unfortunately, I cannot be with her for dinner, but I wanted to say I am having my dinner here, Hope, and they allowed me to say hello to you. I will give you a kiss when I come home. I don't know what time it will be. But thank you very much, Sir. [applause]

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you. Family first, no question in my mind. Thank you very much. We'll return to the call of the Calendar 562, Mr. Clerk.

CLERK:

On page 3, House Calendar 562, House Joint Resolution No. 128, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF THE HONORABLE SANDRA SOSNOFF BAIRD OF NEW HAVEN TO BE A FAMILY SUPPORT REFEREE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The gentlewoman from New Haven, Representative Dillon.

REP. DILLON (92ND):

Good evening, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Good evening.

REP. DILLON (92ND):

I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and acceptance of the resolution -- adoption of the resolution.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Question's on adoption of the resolution. Proceed, Ma'am.

REP. DILLON (92ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Magistrate Sandra Sosnoff Baird has had a long and distinguished public service career. She began studying at NYU Law. She served in private practice in New Haven, and then became the Corporation Counsel, the City of New Haven. From there, she became a staff attorney for the House Democratic Caucus and moved to become a Family Support Magistrate. In that capacity, was recognized to become Chief Family Support Magistrate. What's before us is her moving to be a referee. She is well respected in her field and has given great contributions to the community, and those of us in that -- in New Haven are proud of her. I move acceptance.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Ma'am. Representative Rebimbas.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the Family Support Magistrate Referee, and I think that Representative Dillon did an excellent job in highlighting all of the qualifications, and I support the nomination.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Madam. Will you remark further on this resolution? Will you remark further? If not, staff and guests, please come to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. Clerk will take a tally. And the Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 128:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 126

Those Voting Nay 21

Absent and Not Voting 4

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Mr. Clerk, 563, please.

CLERK:

On page 4, Calendar No. 563, House Joint Resolution No. 129, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF BRENAD D. JANNOTTA OF SOUTHPORT TO BE A WORKERS' COMPENSATION COMMISSIONER. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Conley.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Question's on adoption. Representative Conley.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Attorney Jannotta is a UConn graduate, both undergrad and Law School. She's had a quite accomplished career, most recently serving since 2002 for the Connecticut Department of Transportation. She came to Committee and was asked very few questions, but answered them well, and I move adoption.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Ma'am. Representative Rebimbas.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the nominee before us, and I know the good Representative has extensive experience in Workers' Compensation, and I think she did a good job in highlighting the qualifications of the nominee before us for that position. So, I do rise in support of.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Madam. Representative Kupchick.

REP. KUPCHICK (132ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just would like to mention that the Jannotta family is from Fairfield and actually residents in my district, and they are some of the finest people, the entire family actually. They're very active civically, engaged in the community. They hold a -- many charitable -- different charitable organizations throughout the town, and Brenda herself is a very fine person with a -- with a wonderful character, and I fully support this nominee. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you so much. Will you remark further on this resolution? Will you remark further on this resolution? If not, staff and guests, please come to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. Clerk will take a tally. And the Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 129:

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 132

Those Voting Nay 14

Absent and Not Voting 5

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Mr. Clerk, will you kindly call Calendar No. 564.

CLERK:

On page 4, Calendar 564, House Joint Resolution No. 130, RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE NOMINATION OF CHARLES F. SENICH OF WOODBURY TO BE A WORKERS' COMPENSATION COMMISSIONER. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Hall.

REP. HALL (7TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and adoption of the resolution.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Question's on acceptance and adoption. Would you explain the resolution, Sir?

REP. HALL (7TH):

Judge Charles Senich has honorably served our state as a Workers' Compensation Commissioner since 2001. He is a resident of Woodbury, Connecticut. He attended Central Connecticut State University. He also attended the University of Bridgeport, where he earned his B. S. degree. He earned his Law degree from Quinnipiac University School of Law. Judge Senich proves he has the right temperament and continues to serve our state with integrity. I urge adoption of the resolution.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Sir. Representative Rebimbas.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the Commissioner before us for his re-nomination for all of the good reasons that the Representative highlighted.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Thank you, Madam. Will you remark further on the resolution? Will you remark further on the resolution? If not, staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? Is your vote properly recorded? And if your votes are properly recorded, the machine will be locked. Clerk can take a tally. And the Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 130:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Adoption 74

Those Voting Yea 134

Those Voting Nay 13

Absent and Not Voting 4

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The resolution is adopted.

(Gavel)

Representative Albis.

REP. ALBIS (99TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, good evening.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Good evening.

REP. ALBIS (99TH):

Mr. Speaker, I move that we waive the -- or suspend the rules for the immediate transmittal of the following Calendar Nos. for consideration of the Senate: Calendar Nos. 553, 554, 556, 557, 558, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, and 564.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Motion to suspend and transmit. Is there any objection? Hearing none, so ordered.

Mr. Clerk, I understand we have business from the Senate to read in. Don't get excited folks, we have more bills to do, but -- proceed, Sir.

CLERK:

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we have favorable report Senate Bills to be tabled for the Calendar.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Albis.

REP. ALBIS (99TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that we waive the reading of the Senate favorable reports and the bills be tabled for the Calendar.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Without objection, so ordered. I will return to the call of the Calendar. Mr. Clerk, 321, please.

CLERK:

On page 51, House Calendar 321, Substitute House Bill No. 7221, AN ACT CONCERNING ACCESS TO WATER PLANNING INFORMATION. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Government Administration and Elections.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

The distinguished Chair of the Public Health Committee, Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Question's on acceptance and passage. Will you explain the bill, please, Sir?

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill deals with access to water planning information, most specifically, the existing rules that relate to the Freedom of Information Act. Ever since 9/11, we have made sure that we've been very careful to segregate data that might put our resources at risk, and over the -- over a period of years, that has stood us in good stead. However, we also need to plan for our future when it comes to water resources. As anyone who's lived in Connecticut in recent months has recognized, we are subject to drought just like other parts of the world. We're in the middle of a comprehensive water planning process for which access to data is particularly important.

So, this bill seeks to distinguish between those specific areas where data must be held secure and enumerates it, and also develops a process by which, if there's data not anticipated that should be held secure, there's a process for making determinations on that, but does make certain other data available to the public and for the use for planning purposes.

I guess that will do for now. I move adoption.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Distinguished Ranking Member, Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good evening, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Good evening, Sir.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the good proponent of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Proceed.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker, could you give us a list of situations maybe where this information, which right now is not available, it is necessary for that information to be available.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Steinberg, do you care to respond?

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, that's an excellent question. That's really been the subject of the conversation with all the parties. What is the appropriate data that -- for sharing? A lot of it has to do with water availability, amounts of water, particularly as it applies to its various uses. It also might apply to some aspects of water quality, stream flow, groundwater, things of that sort because those are the sources of water that need to be made available for all the different uses of the state.

And what we really require is longitudinal data over a period of time to see changes so that we can plan accordingly as our uses change and as our supply may change with other changes going on related to climate change or other reasons. You know, we've always been a fairly water-wealthy state, but we've seen in recent years we must plan for our future. This would facilitate the planning process that's currently underway.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, so as I'm hearing you, the general public, if I understand this bill, can request certain information, and that information, because of what we pass through this evening and maybe when it becomes law, that information, which currently is not available, will be made available to individuals.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that is correct. Currently, their access to the data is limited by the existing FOI law. This is making changes so that we can clearly segregate things they shouldn't have, but make accessible data they can have.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, would we be separating out as to who is requesting this information? Is it anybody in the general public; you, me, or anyone else? Or is it somebody who's involved in the process and is making decisions depending on what this various information they get, like an agency or some other people?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, through you, FOI requires that it be available to the general public, but practically speaking, this data would only be useful to those who are using it for planning purposes or monitoring certain bodies of water. The general public would probably not find the data useful, except that it should be available in terms of being general information that is not -- does not need to be secure for security risks.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE GODFREY (110TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, would this information also include drought conditions as to what other levels will it be, at what point in time water can be used for other purposes like, for example, for bottling of water, or so on and so forth? Is that where an agency or an advocacy group may use this information?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. New Speaker. Yes, that's precisely the kind of uses that might occur is to understand the availability of water for a variety of purposes, whether it's drought conditions or other commercial or recreational uses.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan, please.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, so as I understand this, for this Freedom of Information, anyone and everyone can request this information, but the likelihood of this information being requested will be by agencies and advocacy groups that may have a reason as to why they need all this data.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Steinberg, please.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, through you, yes, that is correct.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan, please.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, the Department of Public Health had some reservations, and then they agreed upon moving this bill forward. Through you, Mr. Speaker, what were the concerns for the Department of Public Health?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I think the Department of Public Health was most concerned about water data that applies to their responsibility for water safety, quality of water, potable water, and things of that sort. That was their concern.

But there were a number of interested parties. The Department of Administrative Services, which has responsibility for administering a lot of the FOI requests had interests. The water utilities wanted to make sure this was something reasonable that they can manage. And the environmental groups that were the most likely ones to use this data, those who are involved in the water planning process, were also very interested.

So, this is really an understanding between all the interested parties, and we're very pleased they came to this understanding.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan, please.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, the big concern that was raised -- and I wanted to keep it to the -- to the end of my discussion -- the big concern that was raised by groups and all of us, and as you mentioned early on in the presentation of this bill, is if this information were to fall "into the wrong hands" and could there be the possibility then that we could be opening up this information and expose ourselves to terrorist groups or some other organizations who do not have our best interest?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

To you, Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, through you, that is an excellent question. That really speaks to the heart of why this was a tough bill to negotiate in some ways. We wanted to make absolutely sure that data that would be of high value or risk would not fall into the wrong hands. In fact, the water companies, when they submit their water plans, will submit a complete plan, but they'll also submit a redacted plan where all the data that should not be shared is supplied [sic], and that would be the document that would be shared via FOI so there could be no such mistake.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. To you, Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, as I understand it, when a plan is submitted, that plan would have parts of the plan that it would be okay for us to send it out or give it out to people if it is requested, and at the same time, parts of the plan that we are concerned about that if it were to fall into the wrong hands could lead to negative consequences as far as our state is concerned, that information is redacted, and that information will not fall into these hands. That is our primary concern.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, through you, that is absolutely correct.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

And through you, Mr. Speaker, my final question is that if somebody requests this information under the Freedom of Information Act, and we feel that that information should not be given to them because it is a redacted part of the plan, could they then come after us as a State or any of us and say that how come, according to the Freedom of Information Act, this portion of the bill or that information was not given to us?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Another good question. That's why this is so rigorous. We have been explicit about the data sources that cannot be shared, and that is in statute. It is consistent with FOI because of the security risk component, so we would not be liable for being challenged on that.

And there's also a process. If there'd be an area of data which we had not anticipated, or if technologies or circumstances change, there is an appeal process to make sure that data is also not made available.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do want to thank the good Chair for answering all these questions and clarifying some of the concerns that some of us in the Chamber may have. And I definitely feel, having had the opportunity to work so closely with him and on these various components of the bill, that this information that is requested has to be given through the Freedom of Information Act. At the same time, we do not need to be concerned that this information that should not fall into certain hands, they will have access to that. I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to adopt this bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Will you remark further? Representative Belsito of the 53rd, please.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a few questions for the proponent of the bill.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The proponent's ready. You may proceed.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent, you stated that there are a number of factors or individuals, companies, that want this information. Could you please tell us who they were?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Steinberg, please.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, that's an excellent question. There are any number of organizations that are currently involved with the water planning process. We will actually have an initial report of recommendations out this year, but that's an ongoing process, and data needs to be updated. So, there are environmental groups that are interested. There are certainly other groups that are interested in uses of water, whether they're for commercial purposes or otherwise, that are very concerned about availability and quality of water. So, there are a range of groups that would find this information interesting for their own interests.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, Mr. Speaker, another question to the proponent. There are no specific names that you can give us at this time about the people who want this information?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, since there are not currently any requests relating to this bill, I don't have organization names off the top of my head, but I'd be glad to supply it to the good Representative at some future point. Suffice it to say they're some of the most prominent conservation groups in the state, like the Nature Conservancy for one, the Rivers Alliance for another, but I'm sure there are many more than that.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, at this point in time, there aren't -- there seems to be nobody asking for this information because they don't have a name; is that true?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that was more of a statement, but to answer the question, that's not so. There had been FOI requests under the current FOI requirements, but I wouldn't be able to enumerate them. They probably would be some of the same groups that I mentioned. There has been interest in this data, but because it -- those requests have not been complied with, I couldn't tell you what the resolution would be.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, Mr. Speaker, for the proponent of the bill, up to this time, we have not been giving out the specific information, detailed information that could harm us, and everything has gone along. What has prompted this change?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

I'm sorry, I was a little distracted. Would the good Representative repeat the question?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

No problem. Representative Belsito, would you please --

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

-- repeat your question, Sir.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you. Through you, Mr. Speaker, up until this time, the proponents who are asking for this bill -- or the companies that are individually asking for this bill have not had the information available to them, and everything has gone along, and our water has been safe. Now, what has prompted this outburst of information that is needed about our water?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this has been prompted by the bill we passed a number of years ago to create a comprehensive water plan, which requires a fair bit of data to plan for Connecticut's water future. And I would also add that the drought we've had in the past year underscored the importance of having up-to-date and relevant data for making good planning decisions across the state as we've experienced drought. So, there's both the long-term planning need, but also a very obvious practical one.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. The Chamber will stand at ease.

Representative Belsito, my apologies. Would you be willing to cede the floor to the Chairperson for the purpose of introducing an amendment before continuing your questioning, Sir?

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Yes.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Representative Steinberg, please.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me the chance. The Clerk is in the possession of an amendment, LCO 7465. I ask that the amendment be called, and I be given the opportunity to summarize.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Will the Clerk please call LCO 7465, which will be designated House Amendment Schedule "A".

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule "A", LCO No. 7465, offered by Representative Steinberg.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Steinberg, you may proceed with summarization.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I beg the indulgence of my colleagues of the Chamber. I neglected to call the amendment earlier on when it would -- probably would've been more sensible. It's effectively a strike-all amendment and relates to all the things we've just been talking about, and I really don't have anything to add. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. The question before the Chamber is adoption of House Amendment Schedule "A". Representative Belsito, you still have the floor if you would like to ask questions on House Amendment Schedule "A", please.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Hello. Good evening, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Good evening, Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

I have not had a chance to read the amendment, but it supposedly strikes all. So, I have a couple of questions if the -- has the proponent been able to read the amendment before I ask him a question?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Sir. Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, it's very kind for the Representative to ask. Yes, I am familiar with it.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Belsito, please.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, I am very concerned about the water bill because water is our most essential ingredient that we need for life. There are many, many individuals who are out there who would want to destroy our water because water is the number one product we need. Through you, Mr. Speaker, will this new proposal, the new bill, the strike-all, eliminate most everybody except for the individuals who are getting the supply and the needed information of water at this present time -- be eliminated from getting the information on the water in the future?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg, please.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm not sure I quite understood the question. If the good gentleman wouldn't mind rephrasing or clarifying.

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ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Representative Belsito, do you understand the request, please?

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Could you hit the gavel once, please, Mr. Speaker?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

I could hit the gavel twice.

(Gavel)

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker, will the new strike-all amended -- amendment eliminate everybody who was going to get this under the old proposal so that it goes back to what we have right now, and there will be no further information required or given to anybody else but the exact people who are getting it now?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, no. To clarify, the amendment reflects basically the same areas, but makes changes to some specifics, but effectively offers the same opportunity for security and for the release of very select data as I described previously.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, Mr. Speaker, is there a chance that this information about our water supply could be compromised and given to individuals who are out to tarnish or destroy our water supply?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding is that the hard work that went into this bill to both enumerate all the areas that we would never share information that have anything to do with security and to create a process to even identify areas we hadn't even contemplated provide the assurance that what the good Representative suggests might occur would never occur.

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ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Yeah, through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, if there was so much hard work put into this bill, how come we just had a strike-all amendment?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill went through a lot of negotiation. Everybody wanted to make sure they got the wording precisely right. Words really mattered on this bill. In terms of the subject areas we had involved, there was too much at stake to make sure we didn't get it right, so it went through an amendment, which covered every section of the bill to make sure we had the wording exactly where we needed it to protect the citizens of the state of Connecticut.

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ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't have any further questions for the proponent of the bill, and thank the proponent.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Delnicki of the 14th District, please.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Through you, I have a couple of questions for the proponent of the bill.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Yes, Sir, please.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Thank you. Just looking through the strike-all amendment here, can you explain detailed network topology maps?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is one of the areas that has been enumerated as being sensitive data. My understanding, topography has to do with the geography and the altitudes and many of the things that would help identify a particular area, which could put it at risk of some sort of dangerous act. We do not want to make that kind of information available to the general public.

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ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Delnicki.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, looking at line 204, Specific locations or specifications regarding electrical power standby generators, etc. , is there any provision to protect construction documentation that would be out there in the normal course of a bidding process to do any of this work?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Through you, I do not believe that that information is part of the dataset that would typically available through the water plan submission process, and I would not think that that information would generally available even through FOI. For private companies that would be involved, the only information that needs to be shared is information that they already have submitted to the state agency. So, I don't think that would qualify.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Delnicki.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker, pertaining to future construction that's done to update and upgrade an existing water system, how will those construction documents, which have elevations, which have specifications, which have construction materials, which have actual electrical equipment specified in it, sources of power, conduit locations, etc. -- how will that information be protected?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Mr. Chairperson, please.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a process in place for updating water plans, which typically take place every six years unless there's a reason to do it more frequently, and in that process, the areas that -- a couple of the areas that the good Representative mentioned are already enumerated as things that would not be disclosed, particularly as it relates to a lot of the electrical drawings and plans, which could be used by third parties. So, I believe to answer his question, that is addressed both in current plans and in future plans.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and through you, pertaining to line 194, Dam specifications and safety documents, many of those documents have been, for better or for worse, in the public domain, whether they be located at specific towns that are adjoining dams and those areas. How are those documents going to be protected going forward?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Those -- that information might've been available at one time, but has been held secure under the current FOI requirements and would be held secure under the new FOI requirements. So you can't put the genie back in the bottle, but I would imagine that most people do not have that information, and we do the best we can to keep it secure.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Delnicki.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker, if you look at line 222, Municipal water or sewage treatment entity that has custody of such records, does that mean that this bill will also encompass the sewage treatment infrastructure as part of the security?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes. If they are in possession of those sensitive records, they are also responsible to keep them secure.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Delnicki.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Bear with me for a moment. It's the first time seeing this documentation here. Through you, Mr. Speaker, GIS information that currently is in the public domain pertaining to the actual infrastructure of the pipes in the ground and the locations of storage tanks and some of the capacities of the storage tanks, will that be removed from the public domain so as to ensure the safety of the equipment and the integrity of the equipment?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That's an excellent question. We have broadened the use of GIS data in most municipalities. Certainly, under the existing FOI statute, we put some restrictions on that. I don't believe they necessarily provide information such as the capacity of storage tanks and things of that sort, but it is an area we have to keep an eye on.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Delnicki.

REP. DELNICKI (14TH):

Generally, this looks to me like good language that will accomplish a lot of what we need to accomplish here to ensure the integrity of not only our drinking water systems and our wastewater systems, which could be vulnerable to attack from virtually any entity that wanted to do us harm, at first glance here, I have to believe that I would be in support of what we have here, but I want to listen to further conversation on this issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, the good proponent of the legislation.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Mushinsky of the 85th District, your turn, please.

REP. MUSHINSKY (85TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to support the amendment and, hopefully, the bill as amended. This problem of disclosure of information on water planning appeared when we started to write the State Water Plan, which began in 2014 and is almost ready to be submitted to the Legislature in January 2018. And in order to do statewide water planning, we had to know how much water is where and how it moves from one part of the state to another, where the reservoirs are, and so forth, but we did not need to know where the security cameras are for each water utility or where they store their chlorine or how they operate their dam or any of that information. That's really security-centered and is not part of the water planning process.

So, for several years, as stakeholders tried to get information to write the water plan, the information would come out in highly dedacted -- redacted documents as the agencies and utilities used the conservative version of the law and blacked out pretty much everything in the document so that -- even to the point of hiding where reservoirs are. So you could drive by the reservoir in your vehicle and see it, but you couldn't see it on the report. So this gook a lot of manpower and wasted a lot of time and yielded no information to write the State Water Plan.

This bill, on the other hand, and this amendment is very carefully written by all of the stakeholders. They've been negotiating for many weeks and months, and they have worked very hard to separate out what is truly a security issue from water planning data which should be available to any stakeholder who is working to create a statewide water plan that will help all of us, whether businesses or residences or wildlife, all of us, to have sufficient water and safe water.

So, I'm really happy that this work has been done and that everyone now agrees on what is security and what is not, and I hope you will join me in supporting the amendment and supporting the bill as amended. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Will you remark further? Representative Dubitsky of the 47th.

REP. DUBITSKY (47TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A few questions for the proponent, if I may.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

You may.

REP. DUBITSKY (47TH):

Thank you, the Representative Mushinsky just mentioned stakeholders, and I was wondering if the proponent might be able to give us some idea of who those stakeholders were that participated in putting this amendment together.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That's an excellent question. I believe that the water planning process has been a shining example of getting a whole range of stakeholders to work together from environmental groups to the utilities to the various people who might end up using the water to government agencies, particularly those who are -- who are focused on protecting water resources and the environment. So, I think that all the players that have an interest in making sure our water is available and safe and clean have played a role in this water planning process and would all be described as stakeholders.

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ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative Dubitsky.

REP. DUBITSKY (47TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate that answer. I'm actually looking for some -- a little bit more detail as to who the stakeholders were that actually participated in putting this amendment together, not simply who the stakeholders are that are interested in having clean water in the state. So, if the -- if the proponent has an idea of who actually worked on putting the amendment together, what stakeholders are we talking about?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll try to answer that as well as I can. There were really three major groups who played a large role in this. One would be those who are responsible for the water resources, meaning large and small water utilities both at the municipal level, the local level, but also more broadly; those who represent our interests in government, such as the Department of Energy and Environmental Protection, Department of Public Health, the Department of Administrative Services; and then a large group -- I don't know exactly who was involved at what stage -- of environmental stakeholder groups that have interest in making sure that our resources are protected. So just to summarize, three major groups: those who are responsible for maintaining the water itself, those who are involved in the environmental community, and those in government who are responsible for administering this entire FOI process.

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ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dubitsky.

REP. DUBITSKY (47TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate that answer. And I would ask were there any -- were there any discussions with, like, Federal Emergency Management Agencies, cybersecurity agencies, sort of the Homeland Security, and entities of that ilk?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Steinberg, were you able to hear the question?

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

I was, thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, then to you.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

It -- to actually the good Representative's questions, absolutely. We have the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection involved with this process, and they're the ones who are always on top of the federal requirements and deal with Homeland Security. So, we're making sure we're in full compliance and agreement with the federal requirements, and that's been built into what we're trying to do as well, even with regard to FOI.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dubitsky.

REP. DUBITSKY (47TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the proponent for the answers, and I will continue to listen to the debate. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Will you remark further? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, I will try your minds. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

All those opposed, nay. The ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House, will the members please take your seats, and the machine will be opened. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked, and the Clerk will take a tally. The Clerk will please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 7221 as amended by House "A":

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 146

Those Voting Nay 1

Absent and Not Voting 4

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The bill as amended is passed.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 318?

CLERK:

On page 51, Calender 318, Substitute House Bill No. 7167, AN ACT CONCERNING BEHAVIOR ANALYSTS. Favorable report of Joint Standing Committee on Appropriations.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie, you have the floor, please.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for the acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question is acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Chairperson Abercrombie, you have the floor.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this bill is a really important bill. This requires DPH to come up with a licensure for behavioral analysts. About six years ago, it came to our attention that we had individuals in this state that were providing services that were not licensed or certified, and these individuals work with our most vulnerable population. This bill is a consumer protection bill, especially for our families with kids on this spectrum. Could you imagine being nonverbal and having someone give you services and not even know if they have -- what their credentials are?

Mr. Speaker, with that, I have an amendment. If the Clerk would please call LCO 7786 and I be allowed -- I be allowed to leave the Chamber. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Will the Clerk please call LCO 7786, which will be designated House Amendment Schedule "A".

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule "A", LCO No. 7786, offered by Representative Steinberg.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Abercrombie, you may proceed with summarization.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this makes two quick changes. In line 56, changes
"license" to "certification," and in line 78, goes from "biannually" to "annually
. " I move adoption.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is adoption of House Amendment Schedule "A". Will you remark on the amendment? Representative Linehan of the 103rd District, please.

REP. LINEHAN (103RD):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I rise in very strong support of this amendment and on the bill. I would -- forgive me, I would like, Mr. Speaker, if I can comment when we're talking about the actual bill. I pressed my button a little too soon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Representative. Will you remark further? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Representative Ziobron, would you like to speak on Amendment "A"? Please, Ma'am, you have the floor. Thank you very much.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker, and good evening. I do have a quick question for my good friend on the other side regarding the amendment. I note the change from "biannually" to "annually," and I am looking at the underlying bill. So that means that these folks are going to be charged $ 175 dollars annually now instead of biannually? I'd like to just clarify that for the record.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Abercrombie, please.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes, that is correct. This was something that the behavioral analysts had agreed upon to help with the fiscal note.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Ziobron.

REP. ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate my good friend making that clarification for the record. I think it's important that we constantly think about these things, and she certainly has done that with this amendment, and I look forward to voting for the underlying bill. Thank you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much. Will you remark further? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Representative Steinberg, please, on Amendment "A".

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank Representative Abercrombie for all her good work on this bill. It's been really important for us to move it forward, and I'm glad we're finally at this moment. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Sir. Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, I will try your minds. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

All those opposed, nay. The ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Representative Srinivasan of the 31st District, please.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker, just a few questions to the proponent of the bill as amended.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Yes, Sir.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, so if this bill were to move forward, the behavior analysts will be licensed by DPH, and that licensure: A) would be the initial fee, which we talked about, and then the licensing would have to be renewed on an annual basis at the cost that Representative Ziobron just act -- talked about once again so that there is no fiscal note; is that right?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Representative Abercrombie, please.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that is correct.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, in all the other licensures that DPH does, is -- are the other licenses renewable: A) on an annual basis, and B) at this cost of $ 150 dollars?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I have no idea. This us -- I only can speak to this bill in front of us.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, I just want to make sure that I heard this correct, that the behavior analysts were okay -- were able to sign off on the fact that it is going to be renewed on an annual basis.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes, this is something that they've been asking for over six years. So yes, they were in agreement with this.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Representative Linehan from the 103rd to remark on the bill as amended, please.

REP. LINEHAN (103RD):

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise at the appropriate time in very strong support of this bill, and I do so not only as a legislator, but I do so as someone who loves two nonverbal children with autism. And any parent in this room who has a child who can speak for themselves, they know when their child is hurt. They know when someone else is hurting their child. But if you have a child with autism who is nonverbal, you are not afforded that luxury. These behavioral analysts will be heading into homes of children with autism.

And I can speak to this on a very personal level. My two beautiful 6-year-old nephews are nonverbal autistic, and just last week, one of those children fell down the stairs, and he couldn't tell us that he hurt. He couldn't tell us if he needed to go to the doctor. He couldn't tell us what was wrong. And that is why I rise in strong support of this bill, because when you are talking about children who cannot tell us what's happening in their daily lives, it is important that we do everything that we can to make sure that the people working with them are licensed, have some oversight, and that we know that that can be pulled at any time.

I want to tell this Chamber that a child with any type of intellectual disability is four times more likely to be sexually abused than a child who is not with a disability or is verbal. So, I urge all of my colleagues to think of that when voting today, that we are doing this for the safety of our children, especially those on this spectrum. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Representative Fishbein of the first row and the 90th District, it's your turn, Sir.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too -- I had some questions for the proponent, if I may.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative Abercrombie, please be prepared. Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you. What is the procedure currently for certification in the state of Connecticut for a behavior analyst?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, it's a national certification that they have to go through.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I notice in the bill, and in perhaps its existing language, there's mention of the Behavior Analyst Certification Board. Is it anticipated that this Board will still exist?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes, it's a current board that we have in this state. So, I don't see them going away.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I review the language of the bill, it appears that the certification power, the review power of this Board goes away, and it becomes the power or purview of the Department of Public Health. Is that a correct interpretation?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, if the good Representative could tell me what line he's looking at, that would be helpful. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein, were you able to hear the question?

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Yes, thank you, Sir.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Sir.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Well, particularly, if we look at Section 6, which begins at line 112, it repeals a portion of the existing, and then it goes on to say that, at line 115, "no board shall exist for the following professions that are licensed or otherwise regulated by the Department of Public Health," and the addition in this new bill is at line 158, behavior analysts. So, I am to interpret that, and as we go on, at line 159 it says, "the Department shall assume all powers and duties normally vested with the Board in administrating regulatory jurisdiction over" and so on and so forth. So what is the use, given that DPH now has these powers, for the Certification Board that's referenced in the beginning -- the Behavior Analyst Certification Board?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

So, the Certification Board is also part of the national organization. So, I think that they're going to still stay intact in the state because they want to know year in and year out any changes that are being made to the behavior analyst qualifications. Having said that, they will not supersede the license that DPH will come up with.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Am I to understand that historically it's this Legislature that created the Behavior Analyst Certification Board in the state of Connecticut for the purposes of certifying these individuals?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that was correct because six years ago when we needed to address this issue, there was a national certification that some of our behavioral analysts were a part of, and they were the ones that introduced the Board to the state of Connecticut.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, then I must ask again, other than the voyeur aspect of this Board, why they would still be part of this process if we've basically taken away any oversight, any regulation, any certification power through this legislation.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, so I think I misunderstood what the good Representative was trying to say. The Board will still be in existence in this state because they're part of the national board, but they won't have the power over the behavioral analysts. That will be -- will go through the Department of Public Health.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

To you, Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, let's just talk about the licensure for a moment. Am I to understand that these licenses issued through DPH now will be annually renewed?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

So, then I must ask why is the language -- it says licenses -- and this is line 78 -- licenses issued under this section "may" be renewed?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

I think in the amendment it references that it will now be renewed annually. I don't know why they put it as a "may" when it should be "shall. "

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I note that the amendment did not change from "may" to "shall. " The only thing that was changed was "biannually" to "annually. " So, by what language can one rely in the Department of Public Health to mandate annual renewal of licensure?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, in order to be able to hire another staff person, our understanding is that's why they wanted it to be annually to cover that cost. So, what I would say is if they want to be able to pay for that position, they're going to be renewing it annually.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is there a portion of the bill that indicates that it must be a currently valid licensure, or can one interpret this as I got a license ten years ago and I can be employed?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

So, through you, Mr. Speaker, we have never had a licensure for this particular population, so I don't see that someone could have a license here in this state from ten years ago.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is there a portion of the bill that indicates that the license expires at some point?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, not that I'm aware of.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just by way of comment, this is a subject that's very near and dear to my heart in that I have a niece who is on the spectrum and is virtually nonverbal. I think the language should be "shall" here, with all due respect. As a lawyer, I would be interpreting this on a DPH violation, and there is no requirement that this be annually renewed. I thank the good work here, thank the good Representative. I just -- I think I have to vote against. So, thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Representative Dunsby of the 135th District.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, a few questions for the proponent of the bill through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Yes, Representative, please.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, so the first question I have is I note that the definition of behavioral analysis is very, very broad. I wonder if I could ask where that definition was taken from or how it was constructed.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, from the behavioral analysts themselves.

Through you.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dunsby.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

I'm sorry, could you repeat that please, sir?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Yes, Sir.

(Gavel)

It's getting hard to hear answers to questions. Representative Abercrombie, I apologize. Would you please repeat your last answer?

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Sure, I apologize to the Representative for not being able to hear. That came from the Behavioral Analyst Leadership Council, Suzanne Letso, who we've been working with on this issue for the last six years.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dunsby.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you. Thank you for the answer. So, I note that Section 2 defines behavioral analysis -- sorry, the definition to it, and then Section 2 it says, "no person may practice behavior analysis unless licensed pursuant to Section 3 or 4 of this Act. " So say, for instance, a parent hired a BCBA to do a program for their children. Would the parent be allowed to on the weekends go through that program? Would that be a violation 'cause the parents are not a board -- or licensed?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

I apologize. Could the good Representative repeat the first part of that? I'm not understanding what his question is.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dunsby, please, if you could repeat the question.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So hypothetically, say a parent, for instance, had a program, say, constructed by a BCA -- BCBA and implemented that program on the weekend, say, but they themselves were not licensed. Would they be in violation of this statute?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

So I apologize, maybe it's the time of night, but I -- so can I repeat back what I think you're asking? 'Cause I'm really not sure what the question is. So, are you saying can a parent be a BCBA?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dunsby.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Let me -- I'll just rephrase it slightly differently. Could a parent implement an environmental modification to produce socially significant improvement in human behavior? And the phrase is just derived from the definition of BCBA. So, in fact, I'm asking could a parent do something that now requires a license, if this becomes statute -- and again, so I just picked one parsing of the definition, which is implement an environmental modification to produce socially significant improvement in human behavior? Could a parent do that?

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

So, through you, Mr. Speaker, I think that if a parent is working with their own child, they're not doing behavioral therapy, so I would say no, they're not in violation of this.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dunsby.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm not -- I think I would like that also to be the answer. I'm not sure the way this statute reads that's what I would derive 'cause I think the reading is pretty simple. There's a definition of behavior analysis, and then Section 2 says no person may practice behavior analysis unless licensed pursuant to certain sections.

Another question for the proponent, if I may, Mr. Speaker, through you, the -- so if I'm reading this correctly now, it is currently -- to the point of certification, it's presently illegal for someone to hold themselves out as a Board Certified Behavioral Analyst unless they actually are a Board Certified Behavioral Analyst or use terms such as BCBA.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Abercrombie.

REP. ABERCROMBIE (83RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that is correct.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Dunsby.

REP. DUNSBY (135TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, I guess I have some concerns about this bill unintentionally being over-restrictive. Also, I think in regard to the issue of certification, which was raised, I believe, in the presentation of this bill, it's currently law that someone cannot present themselves as a Board Certified Behavioral Analyst unless they actually are a Board Certified Behavioral Analyst. What this legislation does is require those people who, I guess, previously had been BCBAs to now be, in fact, licensed by the State. And while I certainly agree that if someone is presenting themselves out as credentialed, they should actually have those credentials, I'm not sure that the licensure really adds much to that. I could see that keeping people out of the field. I could see that being restrictive, even though that's not the intent.

So, I will continue to listen to the debate, Sir, Mr. Speaker, but I do have some concerns with this bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you, Representative. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House, will the members please take your seats, and the machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Member to the Chamber.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

If members could stay by their seats after voting, we're hoping to have the lightning round for the last half dozen bills.

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine -- to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked, and the Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 7167 as amended by House "A":

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 140

Those Voting Nay 7

Absent and Not Voting 4

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The bill as amended is passed.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 110?

CLERK:

On page 7, House Calendar 110, Substitute House Bill No. 5755, AN ACT CONCERNING MUNICIPALITIES' LOCAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES PLAN. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Public Health.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

Representative Steinberg, please.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

ASSISTANT DEPUTY SPEAKER TERCYAK (26TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Steinberg, you have the floor.

REP. STEINBERG (136TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This makes a small but very important change to existing statute that helps us deal with the opioid epidemic in this country. It makes the simple change so that only one first responder has to be in possession of the opioid antagonist such as Narcan, rather than "every" first responder. So therefore, it's just a logical simple change to address the reality of first responders. I move passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Will you remark further? Representative Srinivasan of the 31st, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Good evening, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good evening.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Good to see you again. It's a great bill, and it ought to pass. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Well said. [applause] Will you remark further? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, staff and guests, please come to the well of the House, and members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure that your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. The Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 5755:

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 146

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent and Not Voting 5

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 42?

CLERK:

On page 46, House Calendar 42, Substitute House Bill No. 6992, AN ACTE PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF CONSUMERS DOING BUSINESS WITH FINANCIAL PLANNERS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Banking.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The fine Representative of the 100th District, Representative Lesser, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. LESSER (100TH):

Good evening, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Lesser, you have the floor.

REP. LESSER (100TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this bill was actually introduced by the Aging Committee and subsequently received a favorable report by the Banking Committee as well. It's very simple, Mr. Speaker. It seeks to provide additional information to seniors, and Mr. Speaker, the Clerk is in possession of Amendment, LCO 7755. I ask that the Clerk please call the amendment, and that I be granted leave of the Chamber to summarize.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the Clerk please call LCO No. 7755, which will be designated as House Amendment Schedule "A".

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule "A", LCO No. 7755, offered by Representative Serra and Senator Flexer, et al.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection to summarization? Hearing none, Representative Lesser, please proceed.

REP. LESSER (100TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a strike-all amendment that addresses many of the issues raised at public hearing. I urge adoption.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Question before the Chamber is on adoption of the amendment. Will you remark? Representative Byron of the 27th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. BYRON (27TH):

Well, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Good to see you once again this evening. I do have a question for the proponent of the amendment through you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

He looks fully prepared. Representative Byron, please proceed.

REP. BYRON (27TH):

Thank you very much. Through you, Mr. Speaker, does the Association of Financial Planners approve this amendment?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Lesser.

REP. LESSER (100TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, yes.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Byron.

REP. BYRON (27TH):

Thank you. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will you remark further on the bill before us? Representative Simanski of the 62nd, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. SIMANSKI (62ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when this bill first came to us from Aging, it had good, laudable intents, but unfortunately, it didn't achieve that purpose, and in fact, could've caused some harm. In fact, the Commissioner from Banking was strongly opposed to this bill as written because it was redundant, there were already current state and federal laws regulating it. Under the bill as was written originally, there were no enforcement actions, whereas the Banking Commissioner under the Connecticut Uniform Securities Act did, in fact, have enforcement over financial planners and regulations in place. The Commissioner thought it would be in violation possibly of some federal laws, and finally, the Commissioner felt that they already have on their banking site, a lot of good information, as was required by the law.

The bill as amended addresses all the Commissioner's concerns. We still feel it is somewhat redundant. It's not necessary because they are regulated, but I support the bill as amended because it brings the focus back into the Department of Banking rather than in the Consumer Protection Department, and also a good thing is that it requires the Department of Banking to share all the good information on their website with the Department of Consumer Protection. So, for that purpose, I do rise in support of the bill. It addresses all the concerns from the Department of Banking. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, let me try your minds. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Those opposed, nay. The ayes have it.

(Gavel)

The amendment is adopted. Will you remark further on the bill before us as amended? If not, staff and guests, to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote's been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. The Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 6992 as amended by House "A":

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 139

Those Voting Nay 8

Absent and Not Voting 4

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes as amended.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 434?

CLERK:

On page 30, House Calendar 434, Senate Bill No. 762, AN ACT CLARIFYING THE ROLE OF THE OFFICE OF THE LONG-TERM CARE OMBUSDMAN IN THE MANDATED REPORTING OF ABUE OF ELDERLY PERSONS AND DELETING OBSOLETE STATUTORY PROVISIONS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Aging.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Serra of the great city of Middletown, you have the floor.

REP. SERRA (33RD):

Mr. Speaker, I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill in concurrence with the Senate.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Serra, you have the floor.

REP. SERRA (33RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this bill clarifies the role of the Office of Long-Term Care Ombudsman regarding mandated reporting of the abuse of elderly persons and to delete obsolete statutory provisions. This clarifies state law and making it in conformance with federal law. It changes a few things like replacing "patient advocate" with "resident advocate" and things like that, Mr. Speaker. I move adoption.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Representative Byron, you have the floor.

REP. BYRON (27TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The amended language will bring Connecticut into compliance with federal statute and regulation regarding the ombudsman's exemption from mandatory reporting. I strongly urge all my colleagues to support this bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will you remark further? Will you remark further? If not, staff and guests, please come to the well of the House. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure that your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, including the Representative of the 17th District, the machine will be locked. The Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

Senate Bill 762 in concurrence with the Senate:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 147

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent and Not Voting 4

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes in concurrence.

(Gavel)

Representative Sanchez of the 25th District, for what purpose do you rise, Sir?

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Mr. Speaker, I'd like to be recorded in the affirmative on Bill 5755.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Journal will so note. Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 125?

CLERK:

On page 8, House Calendar 125, Substitute House Bill No. 7101, AN ACT CONCERNING ELIBILITY FOR BURIAL IN THE STATE VETERANS' CEMETERY. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Veterans' Affairs.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Hennessy of the 127th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Hennessy, you have the floor.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is a Department of Veterans' Affairs bill. By law, veterans or their next of kin may apply to the Department of Veterans' Affairs for burial in a state veterans' cemetery. This bill extends the eligibility of this benefit to National Guard and reservists who do not have active duty service beyond their training as long as they are entitled to receive federal retirement pay. I ask that the Chamber support the bill. Thank you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

And you did move adoption, Sir.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

I move adoption.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much. Will you remark on the bill? Representative Ferraro of the 117th, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Good evening, Mr. Speaker, and I rise in strong support of this bill for all the reasons that the good Chairman of the Veterans' Committee has just iterated. It's a great bill and will really help the veterans in this case, and I urge the rest of the Chamber to vote for it. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, staff and guests, please come to the well of the House, and members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure that your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. The Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 7101:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 147

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent and Not Voting 4

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 492?

CLERK:

On page 37, House Calendar 492, House Bill No. 5886, AN ACT ESTABLISHING A TAX CREDIT FOR DONATED AGRICULTURAL FOOD COMMODITIES PRODUCED OR GROWN BY THE TAXPAYER. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Finance, Revenue, and Bonding.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Rojas of the great city of East Hartford and the 9th District, you now have the floor, Sir.

REP. ROJAS (9TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's the town of East Hartford, but I appreciate the recognition. [laughter] I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Question for the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Rojas.

REP. ROJAS (9TH):

Just to clarify, this is the revenue package, and I move that everybody vote for it. [laughter]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

If there's no further questions, member and guests -- [laughter]

REP. ROJAS (9TH):

Mr. Speaker, what this bill does is create a tax credit for farm -- for farmers who donate food to food banks and emergency shelters. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Representative Davis of the 57th District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. DAVIS (57TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good evening.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good evening.

REP. DAVIS (57TH): I stand in strong support of this bill here today. It has multiple purposes. Not only does it help our farmers keep their farms viable by providing them with a tax credit for their excess food, but also provides much-needed fresh produce to our food shelves. So, I urge all of our colleagues to support the bill here this evening and look forward to its passage. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, staff and guests, please come to the well of the House, and members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote's been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. The Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 5886:

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 147

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent and Not Voting 4

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes.

(Gavel)

Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 212?

CLERK:

On 14 -- page 14, House Calendar 212, House Bill No. 6041, AN ACT PERMITTING NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO SELL RAFFLE TICKETS ONLINE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Public Safety and Security.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Verrengia of the 20th District, you have the floor, Sir.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Mr. Speaker, I stand to bring out the casino bill. [laughter]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Okay.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Mr. Speaker, I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Question before the chamber is on acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Will you remark, Sir?

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Mr. Speaker, this allows qualified organizations to sell raffle tickets online. Those organizations are identified in the underlining bill. Mr. Speaker, the Clerk has an amendment, LCO 7808. I would ask that the Clerk please call the amendment and I be granted leave to the Chamber to summarize.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the Clerk please call LCO No. 7808, which will be designated House Amendment Schedule "A".

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule "A", LCO No. 7808, offered by Representative Verrengia and Representative Bolinsky.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize amendment. Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Verrengia, please proceed.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Mr. Speaker, it just adds a line 47 and indicates that in no even shall any sponsoring organization operate an online raffle. I move for adoption.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Sir. Question is on amendment. Representative Bolinsky of the 106th, you have the floor.

REP. BOLINSKY (106TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to thank the good Chair as well as the Co-chairs of the Committee and the Ranking Member. This is a very, very good bill, and the amendment itself is very friendly. So being that this is the last piece of business on the calendar today, I'm going to dispense with all of the formalities. If anybody has questions, please feel free to ask them, but I'm going to conclude by saying good bill, ought to pass.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much. Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, let me try your minds. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Those opposed, nay. The ayes have it. The amendment's adopted. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, staff and guests, to the well of the House. Members, take your seats. The machine will be open. (Ringing)

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote has been properly cast. Thank you, Representative Duff. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. The Clerk will take a tally.

The Clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 6041 as amended by House "A":

Total Number Voting 147

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 141

Those Voting Nay 6

Absent and Not Voting 4

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill as amended passes.

(Gavel)

Are there any announcements or introductions? Representative Betts of the 78th.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the Journal, I missed votes due to personal business, Representative LeGeyt missed votes due to some illness, and Representative Smith missed votes due to family business. For the transcript, Representative MacLachlan was out of the Chamber during legislative business. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Journal will so note. Representative Hilda Santiago of the 84th, you have the floor, Madam. Please proceed, Madam.

REP. SANTIAGO (84TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have Representative Luxenberg that was ill. Out today in District business, Representatives Urban, Porter, Johnson, Rojas, Walker, D'Agostino, Lemar, Linehan, Genga, Boyd, Ryan, Gentile, Baker, Morris, Pailillo. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you, Madam. Journal will so note. Representative Candelora of the 86th, you have the floor.

REP. CANDELORA (86TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise for the purpose of announcement.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Please proceed.

REP. CANDELORA (86TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The House Republicans will be caucusing tomorrow a half hour before the beginning of session.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Can I come? [laughter] Representative Albis of the 99th, you have the floor.

REP. ALBIS (99TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to let folks know that we will be in at 10: 30 tomorrow morning as previously scheduled. So, see you all then. We'll be starting right on the dot, and there being no further business on the Clerk's desk, I move that we adjourn subject to the Call of the Chair.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The question of the Chamber is adjournment subject to the Call of the Chair. Is there objection? Seeing none.

(Gavel)

We are adjourned.

(On motion of Representative Albis of the 99th District, the House adjourned at 8: 40 o'clock p. m. , to meet again at the Call of the Chair. )

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