THE CONNECTICUT GENERAL ASSEMBLY

THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Wednesday, May 10, 2017

(The House of Representatives was called to order at 10: 30 o'clock a. m. , Representative Joe Aresimowicz of the 30th District in the Chair. )

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the members, staff and guests please rise and direct your attention to the Dais where Rabbi Alan Lefkowitz will lead us in prayer.

HOUSE CHAPLAIN RABBI ALAN LEFKOWITZ:

Good morning. Speak to the entire assembly and to the people and say to them “Be holy because I, the Lord, Your God, am holy. " So Scripture tells us to "Be holy. " But what exactly does "Be holy" mean? How do we become holy? We don't often hear the word "holy" or “holiness” spoken very much these days. Holy is used in many different contexts throughout various traditions.

A marriage is holy. The ritual of eating is holy, and when a person dies there is a sense of the holy. Since all these various events share a sense of holiness, what do they have in common and what do they have to teach us about holiness?

Looking at these three rituals, a marriage is about two people separating themselves from other relationships in the world and dedicating themselves exclusively to each other. When we say a blessing over food, we are declaring that our meal is different than any other meals and is dedicated exclusively to God. When we bury our dead, our goal is to bring the soul, which has been separated from us, closer and closer to God.

All three situations involve a separation from one thing to become closer to another. And that is a healthy view of holiness. Being holy is living a life that is completely and exclusively dedicated to serving God and abandoning all activities that take away that purpose. Another way of saying we are holy is to say that we live our lives "on purpose. " We all know that we have a purpose in life. We all have a purpose here. But sometimes we live life "by accident. " We forget our purpose and spend our time and energy on things that don't really fit our purpose here on earth. To live "on purpose" means that everything we do in life aligns with our purpose on this planet.

When we eat, it can be a mindless, self-indulgent act. Think about how we eat, are we reading the paper or talking on our phones; or it can be an act of serving God, when we are thankful for the food that gives us the energy to serve God, thus serving our fellow human beings.

When we sleep, it can be a purely physical experience, or we can dedicate our rest for preparing our bodies to serve God when we wake.

Even earning money can be a purely selfish pursuit, or we can use our earnings to further God's purposes. Everything we do can, each of us, all that we can do is of service to our God.

So how do we become holy? We do what we are already doing - only let us all designate and dedicate everything we do to the purposes for the higher power for our God. We say, Amen.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you. Would Representative Klarides-Ditria of the 105th District please come to the Dais to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

REP. KLARIDES-DITRIA (105TH):

(All)I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Is there any business on the clerk's desk?

CLERK:

Yes, Mr. Speaker, favorable reports, House Resolution and House Joint Resolutions.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ritter of the 1st District for what purposes do you rise, sir?

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Good morning, Mr. Speaker, I move that we wave the reading of the list of resolutions and the resolutions be tabled for the calendar.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

So ordered.

CLERK:

Favorable report House Bills.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ritter.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Mr. Speaker, I move that we waive the reading of the House favorable reports and the bills be tabled for the calendar in printing.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

So ordered.

CLERK:

Finally, the daily calendar.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Clerk. Representative Ritter, I see you're still standing and I happen to have a guest back here, so I am wondering if you have any announcements or introductions.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

I do and I'm going to try to make sure I don't leave any of the names out, but we're being visited today by the Braeburn Elementary School First Grade Class, which is down in the front row and I would ask that they could stand and get a nice warm, round of applause from our members. [applause] And Quinlin and Aria Clement and their mother who helped arrange this, I wanted to acknowledge them. It might be odd that I am recognizing a West Hartford Elementary school, which is in Representative Slap's district but there is a young man with a pink shirt up there who happens to be my nephew, who goes to that school, so if we could give Jake and my sister, Jessica also a nice round of applause, I would greatly appreciate that. Thank you. [applause].

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

I don't know Representative Ritter, I think Jake just ruled you out of order. [laughter]. Are there any other announcements or introductions? Representative Boyd of the 50th District. How are you sir?

REP. BOYD (50TH):

Good morning. Mr. Speaker, I rise for an introduction.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Please proceed, sir.

REP. BOYD (50TH):

Mr. Speaker and members of the House, Representative Dubitsky and I are honored to welcome Woodstock Academy here to the Chamber. Woodstock Academy won the Division III hockey championship, we had Representative Scanlon to see them earlier this season, I think our guys could take em on; and as well is Woodstock Academy won again, in girls' gymnastics. So in honor of their achievements and the fact that the hockey program is not that old and to win a state, New England Championship that quickly is a true honor, so the captains, coaches, athletic director are here in the well of the house and the athletes and the rest of the teams are up in the chamber, if we could please give them a welcome. [applause]

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Let's give the champions a round of applause. [applause]. Representative Boyd, Representative Scanlon did smile when you said that, so you know, maybe there's a challenge in the offering. Are there any other announces or introductions? Announcements or introductions? We will move on with the business of the day. Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 52.

CLERK:

State of Connecticut, House of Representative Calendar, Wednesday, May 10, 2017. On page 1, House Calendar 52, House bill No. 6353, AN ACT DESIGNATING THE SHORELINE OF THE TOWN OF STRATFORD AS A “NO KILL OR HARVEST ZONE” FOR HORSESHOE CRABS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on environment.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko of the 121st, you have the floor.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Good morning, Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I move for the acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Gresko, would you proceed?

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Right now, DEEP regulates horseshoe crab harvesting prohibiting the taking without a current license outside of the fishing season which occurs for a seven-week period over the course of the summer. This bill would not allow even that to happen along the Stratford shoreline joining prohibited areas of Westbrook, West Haven and Milford as protected areas. Mr. Speaker, the Clerk has an amendment, LCO 6296, I would ask the Clerk to please call the amendment and that I be granted leave of the chamber to summarize.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the Clerk please call LCO 6296, which would be designated House Amendment Schedule “A”.

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule “A”, LCO 6296 offered by Representative Gresko, Representative Demicco, Representative Harding and Senator Miner.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection to summarization? Hearing none, please proceed sir.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This amendment would prohibit the hand-harvesting of horseshoe crabs from the Stratford shoreline area specifically from Stratford Point to Sniffens Point. This area of Stratford is significant spawning ground for the horseshoe crabs for the past 18 years. Sacred Heart University has been doing a test and has been doing some studying and tagging horseshoe crabs along Short Beach in Stratford through the Limulus Project. They found declining spawning densities and aging population. Now preventing the harvest of adult horseshoe crabs at Short Beach and Stratford Point will connect with the no-harvest areas of Milford Point and allow the crabs to spawn continuous in a protected area, but from a human perspective, horseshoe crab blood is crucial to the purity of vaccines we receive, basically a property in their blood detects impurities. So, if you've ever gotten a vaccine, you can thank you a horseshoe crab. These creatures have been around for 30 million or some odd years. They just need a little help and I move adoption.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Representative. Representative Ziobron of the 34th, you have the floor madam.

REP ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you very much, and good morning, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good morning madam.

REP ZIOBRON (34TH):

Good morning and I thank my good colleague for bringing out this amendment. Certainly, we had a lot of conversations in the Environment Committee on this issue and I just have a couple of clarifying questions.

Mr. Speaker, through you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko, please prepare yourself. Representative Ziobron, you have the floor, madam.

REP ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good morning to my good friend across the aisle. You talked about the importance. -- Mr. Speaker I'm really having a hard time hearing, Mr. Speaker, I'm sorry. Thank you. Earlier, Representative, you spoke about the human importance of horseshoe crabs and how they're blood helps the humankind, especially through vaccines. We know through some work, that especially the Chesapeake Bay area and further south, there are large companies who specialize in that, who are in fact, calling horseshoe crabs alive, bleeding them out and returning them to the wild; is the purpose for barring the hand collection of horseshoe crabs, does that have any effect on that industry and how that helps create vaccines and other important medicine for us here and across the world?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

I will be recognizing Representative Gresko in one moment. I would again ask the Chamber, please keep their discussions to the hallway. It is very hard for the Representative to hear his response. Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The answer is yes. I mentioned the Limulus Project that Sacred Heart University has been doing at Short Beach for quite a few years and they have actually tagged horseshoe crabs and have received reports from as far north as Main and from as far south as the Chesapeake Bay identifying some of the tags that they did in Stratford. So the answer to your question is yes.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ziobron.

REP ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. You know, I think it's important for people to recognize that these issues are regional issues and that they are about a total life cycle. In fact, the horseshoe crab is critically important to a very special bird species as well, which is the Red Knot and certainly as an amateur birder, I am fascinated by that life cycle and I think it's important that we recognize that, which is why the federal government has also done a further protection on the horseshoe crab and my job as a proxy on the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission, we talk about this a lot. I'm curious in the area that you're talking about, are you also seeing the Red Knot there through the migratory system and taking advantage of that breeding season?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko, I'm glad you're answering all these questions.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The answer is yes. Along with the project that Sacred Heart University is doing, the Limulus Project at Short Beach, they've also been involved in reclaiming Stratford Point with the Connecticut Audubon. And over the past few years, their bird count, it's on a migratory bird path and their bird count has increased significantly and the Red Knot is on that increased identification list and they go hand-in-hand as you were saying, so if we save the horseshoe crabs, they eat the eggs and so not only will the humans benefit, but the bird species will benefit as well.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ziobron.

REP ZIOBRON (34TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I thank the good Representative for those answers. I think, again, it is important to put things into context and it's for that reason I'll be supporting the amendment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Madam. Representative Ferraro of the 117th.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A couple -- through you, a couple questions to the proponent.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Please proceed, sir.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you very much. It's very interesting for me to see the horseshoe crab on the list of endangered species having grown up on the shoreline myself in West Haven beaches and having been victimized by the tail of the horseshoe crab when I was a youngster and also having been probably guilty of torturing the little beasts as I grew up. I always saw them as more of a nuisance than I saw them as medically important species for such things that have been discussed, so I do appreciate hearing those things come out.

I just have a couple questions. Just for my own clarification because I have always been interested in marine animals, being that my background is marine biology. So I would like to just, for my own knowledge, are there more than one species of horseshoe crab that are being protected in this bill? Or is it just one species?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would be just the one species that is native to the waters of Long Island Sound.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Okay, so there are, to your knowledge, no other species that inhabit our coastline or our water systems here in Connecticut, just the one species we're talking about?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you. Correct. Through you, Mr. Speaker.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Okay, and, you mentioned that Stratford is a spawning ground for the horseshoe crab. Having grown up in West Haven, I can attest to the fact that West Haven, especially Raphaeli Beach, was absolutely a spawning ground for horseshoe crabs [laughs]. Are these other areas also protected in the bill or is it just the Stratford area?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The bill is specific to Stratford; however, the three other areas that I mentioned are already protected through statute from DEEP and also through the Atlantic Marine Fisheries declaring them as areas. So, West Haven is one of them and is protected already.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ferraro.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. So, what you're telling me is that these species are protected in areas like West Haven and so my days of torturing horseshoe crabs were fortunate that they cut under the wire then because now I would be guilty of messing with an endangered species, is that correct? Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

I would think -- the answer is yes. I would think wisdom comes with age, so the torturing would be over.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ferraro.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I'm glad I outgrew that habit. I also had a problem with fiddler crabs in those days too [laughing] but I won't get into that. How many -- let me ask you this question, are the species of horseshoe crabs that are currently being harvested for medical reasons in Connecticut, are they, in fact endangered, or are their numbers declining that this bill was required? Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I did speak with Professor Jennifer Mattei from Sacred Heart University because they have been there for 18 years and they have been doing these studies and her conclusions are, not only is the population itself getting older, much like we all are, that it's becoming less dense and less volume. So, when I approached her with this idea, she was wholeheartedly in favor of it.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ferraro.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Okay. Through you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the good gentleman for those answers. And something I was curious when I heard the good Representative earlier speak on the bleeding of horseshoe crabs and then releasing them back. Is this a common practice; once the horseshoe crab's value medicinally has been extracted, that the horseshoe crab is put back in the wild and not killed?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. The answer is yes, the pharmaceutical development companies have realized that they can go back to the well more than once, as the saying goes. So it does not make any sense for them to extract all the blood from the animal, because they can just keep going back again once it has an adequate enough time to recover.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ferraro.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the good gentleman for that answer. And my last question would be, so it's fair to say then that, the process of extracting blood does not contribute to the diminishing of the population of the horseshoe crab; we're protecting the horseshoe crab more so from human intervention and the possibility of damaging the crop of horseshoe crabs because of maybe people like little Charlie Ferraro when he was growing up.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko, would you like to answer that question about little Charlie Ferraro? [background laughing]

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I have a hard time, in my mind's eye envisioning little Charlie Ferraro [laughing] but we'll go [background laughing] one step further and say it's more along the lines of preventing fisherman from taking them, putting them on a hook and fishing for what is oftentimes eel or Welk, which I don't have a problem with, just not so much so from the spawning areas. I mean if the population numbers come back up and there's more than enough to go around, they've been around for millions of years as we all know and they just need a little help to continue surviving.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Ferraro.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I thank the good gentleman for his questions. So just a final comment. I'm extremely pleased to see this bill come forward. I'm exceptionally, additionally pleased that the education I received of the value of the horseshoe crab and I will be supporting this bill because; not that I don't think fishermen should be allowed to take horseshoe crabs because sports fishing and using horseshoe crabs as bait hasn't in the past hurt the call of horseshoe crabs, but I do see the value of protecting a medicinally important species that has a benefit to humans. So, I will be supporting the bill and I thank the committee and I thank the chairs of the committee to bring that brought forth and the ranking member that brought forth this bill.

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Actually it's the amendment. Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Representative Harding of the 107th, you have the floor, sir.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Good morning Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good morning, sir.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

A few questions, through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill, if I may?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Please proceed.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, through you. My understanding of the amendment is that it clarifies a certain penalty to committing this act. Could the good proponent please clarify that?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

That's correct. It clarifies that -- originally the bill had said it was going to be a violation, but we knocked it back a little bit to just be an infraction, so it would be a warning from a DEEP Commissioner or DEEP Officer in the area or, as I'm sure once the signs are posted, there will be individuals down at the beach that will monitor the situation.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. Is it the good proponents understanding that, so then the crime or the penalty that is in the amendment is less of a penalty than what was in the current original bill?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That is correct.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. Since it is a strike-all amendment, just a clarification on a couple aspects of the amendment, which is the bill. Is, through you, Mr. Speaker, the prohibition that other towns have, does the good proponent know how those other communities obtained the prohibition of the harvesting of the shoe crabs? Was it at a municipal level, or a state level?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, The other municipalities were given the distinction by the Atlantic Marine Fisheries. I liked the results we saw from those three municipalities so I wanted to step it up for Stratford.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize, I have big ears, but I can't hear well, believe it or not and just if the good proponent could please explain again how those municipalities obtained the prohibition.

Through you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Atlantic Marine Fisheries designation was given to those three individual areas. I liked the results that were produced by that so I wanted the state of Connecticut to extend that to Stratford.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and through you to the good proponent. Is there any evidence or testimony that was provided to the Environment Committee in regards to anything that was special on the Milford Shoreline for these harvesting zones?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Milford or Stratford?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize, Stratford. I --

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through written testimony from Sacred Heart University, Professor Mattei did indicate to me that the area, which she had studied for numerous years, was a specifically significant spawning ground for the horseshoe crabs and thus led to the idea for the legislation.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. A final question if I may, there has been some concerns from some of my colleagues in regards to, if an individual wants to put a dock up on the shoreline, etc. this wouldn't prohibit them from doing that, correct? This is just a simple ban on the harvesting of these horseshoe crabs.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That is correct, the area that is being designated is a municipal beach area anyway, so a dock wouldn't be allowed in the first place, but if on private property, someone wanted to put a dock on, I would think that horseshoe crabs wouldn't be in that area anyway, they prefer the sandy areas. Thank you.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I want to thank the good proponent for all his answers and his information on this particular bill, as well as his work on this bill. This seems like a commonsense approach and I urge my colleagues to support the bill. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, sir. Representative Ryan, of the 139th, you have the floor, sir. Representative Albis of the 99th. Representative Fishbein of the 90th? Third try.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just had some quick questions from the proponent as well.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko, please prepare yourself. Representative Fishbein, please proceed.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, sir. Following along with what Representative Ferraro had to say about his exploits as a child, I presently spend a lot of time on the shore and I dive and pull horseshoe crabs out and show them to the children, you know, this is a horseshoe crab, instructional. Is that considered hand-harvesting under this bill? Would that be prevented or, by this bill.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you. Through you, Mr. Speaker. It would not be prohibited by this, the harvesting indicates the use of the horseshoe crab as either bait or the harvesting that would result in its demise; that's what we're trying to prevent. But to take it and use it for educational purposes would not be prohibited with this bill.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank you for the answer. I note that in the analysis attached to the original bill, it says that the regulation generally prohibits a person from taking, possessing or landing horseshoe crabs. I would agree that harvesting is something totally different, but I just want it to be clear that it is the intent of the bill to take the horseshoe crab and to utilize its parts for something else.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That is correct.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Fishbein.

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I'm done. Thank you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you. Representative Srinivasan of the 31st. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Good morning, sir.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker, just for few questions on the amendment for clarification.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. In this amendment, what we now have in line 8 has become an infraction.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Gresko, I think that was a question.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, that is correct, it is an infraction.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, the fine for this infraction? Through you, Mr. Speaker, is that what I see in lines 90 on?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker, as part of the amendment, the infraction, if an infraction was determined, the individual may pay the fine by mail or plead not guilty under the current general statute of provisions. So, the way I'm looking at it is, we scaled it down to an infraction in an effort to not so much criminalize the action but to use it as education. So I'm assuming once the signs go up, individuals will act accordingly.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I definitely heard that in the conversation earlier in the morning. But I was not clear was the fine on this infraction. Do we know what this fine will be for this infraction?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The monetary amount I am not aware of, but it is the standard infraction that DEEP would and often does incur on the individual.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And my final question is, in terms of implementation of this infraction, it is my understanding that signs will be put up and obviously people will be notified that doing this will be, obviously, not the right thing to do, it's an infraction. I get that, but other than that, is there any other mechanism as far as enforcing this infraction?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Gresko.

REP. GRESKO (121ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and through you, there will be periodic visits to the area by DEEP enforcement officials, especially when they come to monitor the Milford side of the Housatonic River, part of their now routine will be to come across the river and monitor the Stratford side, so they would be the individuals that would be directly responsible for the enforcement.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Srinivasan.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I want to thank the good proponent for bringing out the bill as it is amended. As we heard very clearly, this is something that we need and I urge that my colleagues, both sides of the aisle will support this bill as amended. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, I will try minds? All those in favor signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Oppose, nay. The ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please your seats. The machine will be open. [ringing bell]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will members please check the board to see if their vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. Will the clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Bill 6353 as amended by House A

Total number Voting 136

Necessary for Passage 69

Those voting Yea 136

Those voting Nay 0

Absent not Voting 15

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill as amended is passed. (gavel)

The distinguished Majority Leader, Representative Ritter of the 1st district, sir you have the floor.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

It is always such a pleasure to see you Speaker Ryan at the Dais. It makes me so happy inside to see you up there. The Democrats will be caucusing now. So if we could all have -- we're going to have an immediate House Democratic caucus in 207A. Thank you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Sir. Representative Klarides of the 114th, Ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. KLARIDES (??):

Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would also like to announce the House Republicans will be caucusing in our brand new caucus room, Room 110 [cheering and clapping]. If anybody is wondering, we have a brand new caucus room because we have had the same space in this building since we had 37 members, so we deserve it. [laughing] [clapping and cheering].

REP. RITTER (1ST):

And with that, I guess we will be in -- no, not recess. Sorry, okay.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative DiMassa. Sir, after all that, you get to make your announcement.

REP. DIMASSA (116TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I rise along with my colleagues Representative Borer and Representative Ferraro for the purposes of an introduction, sir. I would like to introduce and if the members could direct their attention to the well of the house, I would like to introduce Carol E. Brown and the West Haven High School, Young Divas on the Move, it's a great program and I want to thank Carol E. Brown and the West Haven Black Coalition and if we could give them a round of applause, I would appreciate it. [applause]

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir, and thank you young ladies for joining us here today. I hope you find it to be an enjoyable and informative morning. Representative Ritter. Sir, you have the floor again.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Thank you. We will be at recess, subject to the Call of the Chair.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

If there is no objection, this House is in recess until the call of the chair.

(On motion of Representative Ritter of the 1st District, the house recessed at 11: 18 o'clock a. m. , to reconvene at the Call of the Chair. )

(The House of Representatives was called to order at 1: 45 o'clock p. m. , Deputy Speaker Ryan of the 139th District in the Chair. )

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The House of Representatives will reconvene immediately. Members to the Chamber.

(Gavel)The Chamber will come back to order. Are there any announcements? Any announcements? Representative Sredzinski of the 112th, sir, you have the floor.

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the purpose of an introduction.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed.

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am joined today by two constituents from Monroe, David Wells and Oliver Wells. Oliver is an 8th grader at the Stem Academy at Masuk High School. He's going to be attending Fairfield Prep in the fall and he is doing a Capstone Project, I believe, on Bit Coin and he was able to talk to the Ranking Member on the Banking Committee a little bit about that today and I just ask the Chamber to give them our normal, usual welcome. [applause] Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you. I'm glad they're able to spend a bit of time here today. Are there any other announcements or introductions? Any other announcements or introductions? Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 225.

CLERK:

On Page 16, House Calendar 225, House Bill No. 7238, AN ACT CONCERNING TECHNICAL REVISIONS TO STATUTES CONCERNING THE COMMISSIONER OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND PUBLIC PROTECTION. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Public Safety and Security.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Verrengia of the 20th District. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Good afternoon, Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Question before the Chamber is on the acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Verrengia, you still have the floor.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Mr. Speaker, this makes a minor change to the underlying bill that would allow our tribal police departments to enter into mutual aid agreements with municipalities on the same terms and conditions municipalities concurrently do under existing law. I move to support the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill? Will you remark further on the bill? Representative Sredzinski of the 112th, sir, you have the floor.

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

Mr. Speaker, I have a few questions to the proponent of the bill, through you, if I may?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed, sir.

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

Mr. Speaker, through you, I just want to make sure that we're on the same Calendar number. My understanding was that this bill before us that is on the board, 7238 is the technical revisions to statutes and I believe the good chairman introduced a bill that we had discussed in committee that had to do with mutual aid agreements between the tribal police and surrounding jurisdictions, so I just want to clarify, through you, Mr. Speaker that we're on the same topic.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Chamber will stand at ease. The Chamber will come back to order. Representative Sredzinski, you currently have the floor. We are doing House Bill No. 7238. If you don't mind, I'd like to give Representative Verrengia a chance to withdraw the earlier.

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

I yield the floor, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Sir, would you care to comment on the bill that is on the board, please.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Yes sir, and thank you for that clarification. This is a technical change. This bill aims to make a technical change to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection. This agency underwent a name change in statute, however, the title of commissioner was overlooked and this bill aims to make this technical correction.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill? Representative Sredzinski, would you care to remark on this bill? [laughing]

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

Absolutely, Mr. Speaker. As any good Ranking Member is, I am well prepared to discuss both bills. [laughs]. So Mr. Speaker, just one quick clarification question. This bill did pass through the committee, nearly unanimously, and my understanding is that the bill changes the title of the Commissioner of Public Safety to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection to coincide with the changes that were made in the department in recent years and I just want to confirm, through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill is that the only statutory change before us?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Verrengia.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Yes.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Easy enough. Representative Sredzinski. [laughs]

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I thank the chairman for his answers. I encourage my colleagues to support it, it's a technical change and has very little impact on the state operation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members please take your seats. The machine will be open. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. Will the clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Bill 7238.

Total number Voting 145

Necessary for Passage 73

Those voting Yea 145

Those voting Nay 0

Absent not Voting 6

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

[gavel] The bill passes. Are there any introductions or announcements? Are there any introductions or announcements? Representative Cook of the 65th District. [gavel] We're having a moment where we're going to acknowledge the passing of one of our colleagues. If you would keep the proper decorum during this process while Representative Cook is describing and telling us about this individual, that would be greatly appreciated. Representative Cook.

REP. COOK (65TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker I rise for the purpose of an announcement. On Monday, May 8th, former State Representative Zina Timken passed away. Zina lived in Torrington for 70 years and worked tirelessly to transform the quality of life for the citizens of Torrington, Litchfield County and the state of Connecticut. Zina served as a member of countless boards and commissions including the Connecticut Judicial Selection Commission, Charlotte Hungerford Hospital Board of Governors, Litchfield County Writer's Project and the UCONN Torrington Branch. The Brooker Memorial and National Council of United States Small Business Administration. Most notably, she and her late husband, Dr. Izzy Timken established both the IB and Zina H. Timken and Torrington's Community radio station WAPJ. Zina's passion for public service knew no bounds. She was elected to the General Assembly in 1958 as a State Representative for two terms. This would only be a start for her efforts to pave the way for women in Government. She went on to coordinate campaigns for Abe Ribicoff and Ella Grasso. Upon both of their elections to the office of Governor and Grasso's election to Congress, Zina worked as an aide to each of them for the durations of their terms. As quoted from her obituary “she took this service very seriously and never accepted anything in return. ” Zina was the epitome of a humble and professional citizen and her example is one that we should all strive to emulate. I extend my deepest sympathies to her children, Allen, Nan and Bruce, her grandchildren, great grandchildren, nieces, nephews, cousins and friends and I ask that my colleagues join me for a moment of silence. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Could you all stand for a moment of silence. Thank you. Thank you, Representative. Any other announcements or introductions? Representative Reyes of the 75th District, sir you have the floor.

REP. REYES (75TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to make an announcement. Visiting from the City of Waterbury, Alderwoman, Brenda Liz Cotto from the 75th District, serving on the Board of Alderwomen under the Honorable Mayor, Neil O'Leary and I want to give her a warm welcome to the Chamber. But before I do that, I also would like to default some time to Representative Butler, who would like to do the same.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Okay, thank you sir. Representative Butler. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. BUTLER (72ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you, Representative Reyes. I also would also like to actually ask my colleagues to recognize the good work of Alderwoman Cotto, she -- I want to tell you today, she works on a lot of issues all over the city of Waterbury. She works diligently. I've worked with her on a number of occasions on quality of life issues in the city of Waterbury and I'm proud that she is here that we could actually show her off to the rest of the state. So with that, I would ask my colleagues to all give her our usual warm welcome. [applause].

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to visit us and you can see that your representatives are doing a good job for you. Are there any other announcements or introductions? If not, will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 99.

CLERK:

On page 5, Calendar No. 99, House Bill No. 7102, AN ACT PROTECTING PERSONAL INFORMATION OF MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES AND VETERANS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Hennessy of Bridgeport of the 127th, sir, you have the floor.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Hennessy, again, you have the floor.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the clerk has Amendment LCO 6820. I would ask the clerk to please call the amendment and that I be granted leave of the Chamber to summarize.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Will the clerk please call LCO 6820, which will be designated House Amendment, Schedule “A”.

CLERK:

House Amendment Scheduled “A” LCO 6820 offered by Representative Hennessy and Representative Ferraro.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment, is there objection to summarization? Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Hennessy, you may proceed with summarization.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what this amendment does is it extends identify theft protection to our Veterans and military to include military information that before was not covered. Before it was like social security and that kind of stuff and so what this does, it protects our Veterans, so I move adoption.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. The question before the chamber is adoption of House Amendment Schedule “A”. Will you remark on the amendment? Representative Linehan of the 103rd.

REP. LINEHAN (103RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of this amendment and I would just like to point out that what this amendment does in addition to strengthening the rest of the bill, is that it also affords the members of our military the protection of their social security numbers and identity protection so that it is clarified that they are afforded the same protection under this amendment and bill that everyone of us are afforded with our social security numbers with their military information, their sensitive military information. Thank you.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Ferraro of the 117th. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I echo the comments of the good chair of the Veterans Committee in that this amendment does not make any changes to existing law. Instead, it clarifies the application of the law in Section C, where it allows for the protection of military identification cards, numbers, discharge documents, identification cards and retirement identification cards for the military, which were not heretofore clarified in the definition. So I rise in support of this amendment and urge my colleagues to do so as well. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, I would try your minds. All those in favor, please signify by saying Aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff guests please come to the well of the House. Will members please take your seats, the machine will be open. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will members please check the board to determine if their vote is properly cast. If all members have voted the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. Will the clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Bill 7102 as amended by House “A”.

Total number Voting 145

Necessary for Passage 73

Those Voting Yea 145

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent not Voting 6

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill passes [gavel].

Are there any announcements or introductions? Are there any announcements or introductions? Representative Kokoruda of the 101st District. Ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. KOKORUDA (101ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You look very good up there today, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

It's the distance and the lights, ma'am. [background laughing]

REP. KOKORUDA (101ST):

And I didn't bother to put my glasses on, so it all works. [laughing] Mr. Speaker, point of introduction please.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed, ma'am.

REP. KOKORUDA (101ST):

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I'm honored to stand with my colleagues, Representative MacLachlan and Representative Carney to introduce one of our wonderful constituents. This is Marietta Lee, she lives in Madison, but she is Vice President and Corporate Secretary of an incredibly Connecticut company, an incredible Connecticut success story, the Lee Company in Westbrook, Connecticut. They have 1000 employees and they have been working and helping families with great jobs for 68 years. So I would ask my colleagues to stand and welcome Marietta Lee. Thank you. [applause]

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, ma'am for taking the time to visit us today and we wish you continued success, your business' continued success in the future. Thank you. Are there any other announcements or introductions? Announcements or introductions? Hearing none, will the clerk please call Calendar No. 415.

CLERK:

On page 58, Calendar No. 415, Substitute House Joint Resolution No. 67. RESOLUTION VACATING THE DECISION OF THE CLAIMS COMMISSIONER TO DISMISS THE CLAIM AGAINST THE STATE OF JAMIE GENOVESE, ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE ESTATE OF TONI MARIE GENOVESE AND REMANDING THE CLAIM TO THE CLAIMS COMMISSIONER FOR A HEARING ON THE MERITS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Conley of the 40th. Ma'am.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Conley, you have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you. The committee has met and the committee of two, including myself and Representative Storms and the Judiciary Committee has voted on this matter to send the claim back to the office of the Claims Commissioner for a hearing on the merits. The quick facts of this, is this is a case about a young man who passed away due to drowning while in custody of the state of Connecticut DCF. There was a contingent on the substitute language that his -- the heirs of the estate, which would be the young man's siblings would be the ones who would inherit any proceeds from a future claim against the state of Connecticut due to the death of the young man while he was in DCF custody.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, ma'am. Will you remark further on the bill? Will you remark further on the bill? Representative Storms of the 60th, sir, you have the floor.

REP. STORMS (60TH):

Could we just have a pause, sir?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

All right. We will stand at ease. Representative Conley, would you care to maybe go over what this particular bill, to see if we have a leg to stand on with this issue? [background ohhs and boos]

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In confirming, there was a little bit of confusion because we had a few claims and this came up quickly. But the claim against Jamie Genovese is the one that I stated. This is a young who was in DCF custody and he passed away due to drowning in a pond. The committee is recommending that the claim be sent back to the Claim's Commissioner for a hearing on the merits. And that his heirs, who are able to inherit from a future claim would be his siblings. There was a discussion not his parents, because his parents were the reason that he became in the custody of DCF so his siblings would be those who would inherit from a claim.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, ma'am. Representative Storms of the 60th, sir.

REP. STORMS (60TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sorry for the confusion. I rise to support the bill. The Claims Committee of the Judiciary has reviewed this and I believe that there is an appropriate state purpose in encouraging state accountability by adjudication of this claim. Thank you, sir.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, we will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members take your seats. The machine will be open. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. Will the clerk please announce the tally?

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution No. 67

Total number Voting 145

Necessary for Adoption 73

Those voting Yea 145

Those voting Nay 0

Absent and not Voting 6

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Are there any announcements or introductions? Hearing none, will the clerk please call Calendar No. 416.

CLERK:

On page 58, Calendar No. 416. A Favorable Report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary, Substitute House Joint Resolution No. 73. RESOLUTION VACATING THE DECISION OF THE CLAIMS' COMMISSIONER TO DENY THE CLAIM AGAINST THE STATE OF MELISSA STEINHILPER, ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ESTATE OF AMANDA MONINGTON AND REMANDING THE CLAIM TO THE CLAIMS COMMISSIONER FOR A HEARING ON THE MERITS.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Conley, ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Conley, you have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This claim, the committee recommends that it be remanded back to the office of the Claims Commissioner for a hearing on the merits. Briefly, this is a claim in which Amanda, I'm sorry, Mellissa -- Amanda is the young lady who passed away, her administrator is Melissa Steinhilper. She was hiking on one of our lovely parks; however, she fell to her death and this is a claim where there were some factual issues as to the markings of the trail that should be heard by the Claims Commissioner to have those issues resolved as to if the trail was marked in a way that caused a hazard. So the committee does recommend the hearing on the merits to deal with the facts of this case.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Storms of the 60th, sir.

REP. STORMS (60TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I arise to support the bill. I believe the facts justify a remand to the Commissioner at this point in time. Thank you, sir.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. Will the clerk please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 73.

Total number Voting 145

Necessary for Adoption 73

Those voting Yea 138

Those voting Nay 7

Absent and not Voting 6

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Are there any announcements or introductions? Are there any announcements or introductions? Representative Devlin of the 134th. Ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. DEVLIN (134th):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for point of introduction. I'd like to introduce to the Chamber two incredible individuals, Mr. Gordon MacKenzie and Mr. Urb Leimkuhler from Fairfield. They represent Fairfield Senior Advocates and have been up here sharing significant analysis that they have done showing the offset benefits of removing income tax from Social Security to keep seniors in our state. So I'd love for the Chamber to welcome them with a round of applause. Thank you. [applause]

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, gentlemen for being with us today. Any other introductions or announcements? Hearing none, will the clerk please call Calendar No. 417.

CLERK:

On page 59, Calendar 47, Favorable Report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary. Substitute House Joint Resolution No. 74. RESOLUTION VACATING THE DECISION OF THE CLAIMS COMMISSIONER TO DENY THE CLAIM AGAINST THE STATE OF MARIAN O'SHEA, EXECUTRIX OF THE ESTATE OF MICHAEL O'SHEA.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Conley of the 40th, ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Conley, you have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In this bill, the committee granted permission to sue to the state of Connecticut for monetary damages and award. This is a case where a gentleman was incarcerated in custody of the Department of Corrections and he passed away. In a matter of two weeks, he went from being a gentleman who was able to speak and carry on as he was. He did not get his medications for various medical conditions and his capacity diminished to the point where he couldn't walk, couldn't speak and eventually did pass away. The public purpose of this bill is to encourage accountability of the state government through the provision of appropriate medical care and treatment to persons who are in custody of a state agency.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative Storms of the 60th. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. STORMS (60TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to support this bill. I believe the public purpose as stated is appropriate and I urge my colleagues to support this bill. Thank you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 74

Total number Voting 145

Necessary for adoption 73

Those Voting Yea 145

Those voting Nay 0

Absent not Voting 6

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Are there any announcements or introductions? Are there any announcements or introductions? Representative Hennessy of the 127th, sir, you have the floor.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have the pleasure of making an introduction if that's all right with you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed, sir.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, behind me, the Civil Air Patrol, the Connecticut Civil Air Patrol, we have Colonel Ken Chapman, who is the outgoing commander of the Connecticut Civil Air Patrol and with him is the legislative liaison, Lieutenant Colonel Dorren Cioffi and so they have come to visit us and I would just like to say that any one of us can become members of the Civil Air Patrol if you would like to and participate in this wonderful program and they're here if you have any questions.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative are you finished? Representative Hennessy? Okay.

REP. HENNESSY (127TH):

Yes.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Ferraro of the 117th. Sir, please you have the floor.

REP. FERRARO (117TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to ask the Chamber to join in recognizing the Civil Air Patrol. I myself joined them the last session and I had the privilege of flying the Civil Air Patrol route from New Haven to New London back to Bridgeport and back to New Haven. It is a fantastic experience. I think everybody should do it. I rise with them, my colleagues who offer the Chamber's hardy welcome to the Civil Air Patrol. Thank you very much. [applause]

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Thank you, gentleman for being with us today. As a member of the Civil Air Patrol, I certainly appreciate your presence here and I enjoy many of your events, especially the ones with the young cadets. Are there any other announcements or introductions? If not, will the clerk please call Calendar 414.

CLERK:

On page 58, Calendar 414, Substitute House Joint Resolution No. 63. RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE DISPOSITION OF CERTAIN CLAIMS AGAINST THE STATE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 53 OF THE GENERAL STATUTES. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Conley, you're certainly rolling along with all of these various bills, please proceed, ma'am.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Conley, you have the floor.

REP. CONLEY (40TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a bill that encompasses the remaining 27 claims that were before the committee. These claims we have recommended disposition of all the claims in accordance to the Claims Commissioner's ruling. The public purpose of this is to confirm the decision of the Claims Commissioner and dismiss these claims as they were founded to be unfounded claims and to preserve the state funds.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Storms of the 60th. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. STORMS (60TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to support this bill. I do want to assure the members of this body that all 27 claims were reviewed and discussed by members of the Claims Committee and the Judiciary Committee and I believe that the disposition as stated is appropriate and I would urge the members to support this bill. Thank you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take your seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will the members please check the board to see if their vote is properly cast. If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Joint Resolution 63.

Total number Voting 145

Necessary for Adoption 73

Those Voting Yea 145

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent not Voting 6

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Are there any announcements or introductions? Are there any announcements or introductions? Will the clerk please call Calendar No. 63.

CLERK:

On page 51, Calendar No. 63. Substitute House Bill No. 6356, AN ACT CONCERNING PUBLIC NOTICE OF TREE REMOVAL ON MUNICIPAL PROPERTY. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Planning and Development.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar, Chairman of the Planning and Development Committee and distinguished Representative from the Havens, sir, you have the floor.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker before us expands to municipal properties prohibitions regarding certain actions around cutting trees. Mr. Speaker, the clerk is in possession of Amendment LCO 6826. I ask that the clerk please call the amendment and I be granted leave to summarize.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Will the clerk please call LCO 6826, which will be designated House Amendment Schedule “A”.

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule “A”, LCO 6826 offered by Representative Lemar, Representative Candelaria, Representative Porter, Representative McCarthy-Vahey and Representative Rose.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative seeks leave the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection? Hearing none, Representative Lemar, you may proceed with summarization.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this amendment strikes the underlying bill and applies to municipal properties, various prohibitions on pruning, removing, injury, marking or defacing trees or other natural objects on municipal land. It also gives posting notice guidelines and how you distribute or discard advertisements on municipal land. It is a pretty simple addition to our past tree removal bills that we've passed in prior years and expands to public areas, the same provisions about removing trees that utilities are undertaking. Thank you, I think that it's it. I move adoption.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The question before the Chamber is on adoption of House Amendment Schedule “A”. Will you remark on the amendment? Will you remark on the amendment? Representative Zawistowski of the 61st, ma'am. All right, we'll go to Representative Harding of the 107th, maybe you have something to say about this.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't know if I have anything valuable to say, but I have something to say, so. [background laughing] Through you, Mr. Speaker to the good proponent of the amendment, could the good proponent please explain the reasoning behind the amendment? What is different on this bill as opposed to the original bill?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Yes. It just outlines different notice procedures that the utility will have to notice the tree warden and local municipality about. It ensures that there's communication between the utility company and the responsive tree warden about what area they will be working in, what streets will be identified for vegetation management and that we have a greater sense of awareness of where our utility will be conducting operations in advance of them coming. It provides just opportunity for our tree warden to evaluate all subject properties. Thank you.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, to the good proponent, Mr. Speaker. Could the good proponent please identify the sections of the bill that addresses what the good proponent identified in the amendment.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you. Yes. Through you, Mr. Speaker. We're looking at “Section 1F, lines 104-107 where it stipulates that such application shall be acknowledged by the authorizing authority upon the commencement of any public comment period or public hearing where upon such authority's decision to forego such a hearing. ” That requires our local municipalities to receive true notice of the exact locations in which utilities will be conducting vegetation management. Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the good proponent for clarifying that language there. Through you, Mr. Speaker. Just a little, because it is a strike-all amendment, I will address some other aspects of the bill if I may, Mr. Speaker, through you. The first question is a “public way”. That's identified numerous times throughout the bill. Could the good proponent please explain what the definition of a “public way” is?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you. I do not have the statutory definition of “public way” before me. If the good gentleman would provide me a moment, I can certainly research the statute definition if that's okay.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Chamber will stand at ease. The Chamber will come back to order. Representative Lemar, excuse me.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is our understanding that a “public right-of-way” is often defined within the local jurisdictions, planning and zoning prerogatives. With the state's statute, we are not amending the current statute in any way for the definition of or a municipalities ability to define a “public right-of-way. ” So it is generally sidewalks, public land, areas abutting publicly owned resources.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And through you, I thank the good proponent for his good research and the information on that. So is it my understanding that this particular bill places the law on “public ways” also on municipal property?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And if the good proponent could please explain some -- the notice processes. Does that notice process involve every aspect of -- for example, anything done to natural objects on municipal property? For example, if they post or some advertisement is placed on a tree on municipal property, would that be something that would have to go through a notice process? Or is the notice process something that is to remain only to vegetation management, etc. ?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you. The notice process procedures take place any time a utility is engaging in vegetation management or work inside of that management zone. So if they are impacting a naturally occurring resource inside there, they have to let the corresponding locality be aware of what is happening in that vegetation management zone.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. From what I read and some of this is in the original bill and I am certain that most -- it's also pertained in the amendment as I'm skimming through it, and I apologize. Is the vegetation plan allowed for municipalities to create? Is it my understanding are there any restrictions on this vegetation plan created by the municipalities?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you. A utility retains the authority. If a tree is interfering with an electrical line or a utilizing-owned structure within that zone, they retain the right to go in and trim back that tree or remove that tree. It's when it's within that zone, but not necessarily directly impacting those that they need sign off from -- or they need to provide notice to the local tree warden.

But they, again, through you, the local utility retains the ability to go into that zone and trim anything that is directly touching or interfering with the utilities' property.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe I didn't -- I don't believe I clarified the question well enough and I apologize to the good proponent.

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I'm asking that this bill, from my understanding if I'm correct, allows municipalities, the towns to create a vegetation plan. So my question is, does this bill have any restrictions on the vegetation plan created by the municipality?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you. No.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, does this essentially allow then -- through you, Mr. Speaker. Does this essentially allow municipalities to have full control over anything that's outside of that zone in which utilities can remove natural objects.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Yes. I just want to make sure I'm clarifying. Through you, Mr. Speaker. In the municipality we're talking about public rights-of-way and municipally owned property. Yes, the municipality has complete control over all operations of the property within that area and they just receive prior notice before the utilities engage in any vegetation management within that specified area. There's no restriction on what the municipality can do within that area, so long as it does not interfere with the utilities' operations.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. Is there any concern from the utility companies that -- was there any testimony received in regards to some of their concerns with this particular bill? And has that been addressed?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Through you. There was no opposition testimony during the public hearing component. There was some concern indicated to us about how detailed and exact they needed to be about what day they were operating on what specific property. We ensured -- through legislation, identified that at the beginning of that process, they just need to give us a general idea of the areas that they're going to be in within that specific public hearing timeframe. So, they don't need to make us aware on what specific day they'll be managing what tree. And we don't interfere with their operations in an emergency situation. Just when they're doing routine vegetation management, the local municipality needs to know generally where they're going to be within what timeframe. It allows our tree warden to ensure that the trees scheduled for removal, trimming or pruning are appropriate for that action.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That's an important component. And through you, Mr. Speaker, I just want to clarify that, that if there is an essentially an emergency setting in which there's an electrified cable above the ground in which there is a -- excuse me, a cable wire above the ground and let's say a piece of -- a branch from a tree, this is not going to prevent these utilities companies from removing that. Is that correct?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Mr. Speaker, through you, yes. The good gentleman has that exactly right. Nothing interferes with utilities ability to come in in emergency situations to remove any hazard causing limb or a tree that is interfering with operations.

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Harding.

REP. HARDING (107TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And, I'll make a comment if I may. I look forward to hearing some of my colleague's thoughts on the bill. It does seem to be a common sense approach. It does give more municipal control in these particular settings and generally I support more municipal control as opposed to a utilities sometimes removing objects without any notice, or a surprise. So it does address that issue. I am happy with the aspect, though, that anything that is an emergency setting or any electrified wires, that utility companies have the authority without having to go through any sort of notice process to remove some of those hazards. So, thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Dubitsky of the 47th. Sir, do you have comments on the amendment?

REP. DUBITSKY (47TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe my questions have all been answered by the previous Representative. Thank you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, I'll try your minds. All those in favor, signify by saying Aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Opposed, nay. The ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Representative Ackert of the 8th District. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. ACKERT (8TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The dialogue was good. I just didn't get one part clear. And maybe it was through the good dialogue of the Chair and Ranking Member, in lieu of a tree warden, who is notified, any supervisory, town manager, if there is no tree warden in that community?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lemar.

REP. LEMAR (96TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you. Yes, It's a public works designated individual that every town has. A designated tree warden or surrogate.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

REP. ACKERT (8TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the good gentleman.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill as amended before us? Will you remark further on the bill as amended before us? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Will the members take their seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all members voted? Have all members voted? Will members please check the board to see if their vote is properly cast? If all members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 6356 as amended by House “A”.

Total number Voting 145

Necessary for Passage 73

Those Voting Yea 144

Those Voting Nay 1

Absent not Voting 6

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill as amended passes. [gavel]

Will the clerk please call Calendar No. 346.

CLERK:

On page 28, Calendar 346. Substitute House Bill No. 7155, AN ACT REQUIRING THE OFFICE OF EARLY CHILDHOOD TO DEVELOP A PROPOSED EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATOR COMPENSATION SCHEDULE favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on education.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez of the 25th. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptable of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Sanchez, you have the floor.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Mr. Speaker, the bill before you requires the office of Early Childhood to develop an Early Childhood Educator compensation schedule and recommendations on how to implement it for the Education Committee by next January. Over the past two decades, we have made substantial commitment to expanding to expanding preschool and early learning opportunities for our youngest and most at-risk learners. We should all be very proud of this accomplishment; however, all the research tells us that what makes a difference for these children is a high quality early learning program. The key element to a quality early learning childhood program is the teacher in the classroom. Back in 2010, the General Assembly recognized the need for skilled early childhood teachers and set the goal for having BA level teachers in every state-funded classroom by 2015. That goal proved to be elusive. We have pushed the deadline back twice already and will need to do so again this session or we'll have about 40 percent of our state-funded programs out of compliance. As someone who taught preschool in the Head Start program for many years, I can tell you that the basic problem is that preschool teachers get paid a lot less than other people with BA's. That means that we have trouble attracting enough people to pursue a BA in Early Childhood and a hard time retaining them in the field. The wage difference between a preschool teacher and a kindergarten teacher starts about $ 20,000 a year and grows over time. Further complicating the problem are different payment rates for the various early childhood program and inequities created by program rules. This means that teachers doing the same job in classrooms with different funding sources get paid at different rates. This is hugely frustrating for early childhood program directors who would pay their teachers more but face multiple challenges including growing child poverty rates, loss revenue from the closure of Care for Kids to expensive yearly requirements. Every year since I got here, we have grappled with this problem, but have we done it without the information we need to try to crack the solution. Currently, there is no core relation between compensation and qualifications. This makes no sense if we want high quality programs for our children. This bill would have OEC compile information on compensation levels and a number of factors including level of education, experience and relevant training to determine compensation. It would also have them present options on how to implement a new compensation scale. This will give the legislature the necessary information to make rational decisions on adequate funding to ensure retention and recruitment of early childhood teachers. This bill will move the early childhood system forward. It will send a message to the hardworking, dedicated, early childhood work force that we value their service to our children and families. I urge my colleagues to vote yes for Early Childhood.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Lavielle of the 143rd District. Ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. Good afternoon. I have a few questions for the proponent of the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you very much. As I understand from our discussion in the Education Committee on this bill over a period of time, some of the impetus; there was some more impetus in addition to the appropriateness or not of the level of compensation for qualified people. As I understood it, there is, first off, a problem in that qualified people either don't take the jobs that are available now or don't keep them because they don't pay enough, but at the same time, given the funding problems that the state has, paying too much is something that we can't afford if we hit a certain level. Is, am I correct that these things together are factors behind the impetus of this bill as well?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. To the kind lady and to the Ranking Member of the Education Committee, absolutely. There has been a number of discussions in the past couple of years. It is so important for us to understand that many of these children in these funded programs are low-income families for the most part and we do have an achievement gap that we're grappling with here in the state of Connecticut. So we really want these teachers to be well educated and quality teachers that will teach in a quality program. So, many of the teachers that are presently trying to get an Early Childhood eduction degree, don't feel that they're going to get the compensation that they deserve at the end of reaching their Bachelor's Degree, so some of them are actually switching to other professions. Some are going into the nursing field, some are leaving the schools -- so it's become a big problem retaining these teachers once they reach that degree level because we don't pay them. They are the lowest paid teachers, actually early childhood teachers in general are the lowest paid teachers in the country.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you. And I would ask the good Representative if he believes that we can afford, as a state, to pay these professionals enough to close that gap of uncertainty between them and other teachers or other professions that they might propose to leave to go into.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that if the office of Early Childhood could come up with innovative ways to be able to have enough funding so that they can at least start a phase in of bringing their salaries up. For instance, there's a possibility and you know, talking to the Commissioner recently, there may be some certain slots that are now filled, so why continue adding slots at this point when we're trying to retain teachers. So maybe the dollars saved with those slots that are extra could go towards some type of salary scale increment and we're not looking to increase their salaries right away. We're talking about a phase in which would take a couple of years. And I believe that the Office of Early Childhood can up with some ways, some savings where they'll be able to put some more money into these programs so that they can actually raise some salaries.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you. And this bill applies only to those positions that receive some type of funding from the state, is that correct?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Correct.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now, am I correct as well, does this bill actually change the compensation scale or simply study and recommend one?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. This is a basic recommendation from the Office of Early Childhood, they would come back to the Education Committee in January of 2018 with their recommendations and then it would be up to the committee to decide moving forward if we can afford it or not or maybe the Office of Early Childhood would come up with some innovative ways where they can actually do some salary increases moving forward.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

So, would the object of this study, or analysis, would it include other factors besides salary? Working conditions, prospects, other things besides salary?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, definitely. It would, you would have to look at how long that individual has been working in the field; it could be five years, ten years. They would look at their degree level, is it a Master's Degree, a Bachelor's Degree, an Associate's Degree. You know, just basically look at the quality of the program as well and then they will base it on those factors. So it's not, it's not going to be very easy, but they would come up with a schedule that would implement this funding providing that, again, that these other factors fall into place, which is the degree level and the amount of time that they have been teaching in the classroom.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

And is it the intent that this schedule would be standardized among all communities in Connecticut regardless of cost-of-living, pay scales of teachers in K-12 and other factors?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. This will only affect state-funded programs. So any program that is receiving school readiness funding or state Head Start funding, it would only affect those programs at this point.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand that it is only state programs. I will rephrase my question, which is, would the schedule -- is it the intent that the schedule be standardized for let's say a position in Hartford or a position in Litchfield, regardless of cost-of-living and other factors?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. It would.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Okay. On another note, I noticed an inconsistency between the testimony of the Office of Early Childhood and the opinion of OFA. And the Office of Early Childhood, at the time, the acting Commissioner testified against the bill saying that, unfortunately, passing this would encumber the state because the OEC would have to hire outside experts to come in and do this analysis. On the other hand OFA said that there would be no fiscal note because the Office of Early Childhood is fully equipped to do this internally and has the necessary expertise. Do we know which is true?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Recently I spoke to the Commissioner of the Office of Early Childhood and he said he would seek out probably some help with probably the Department of Labor, but he believed that they would be able to work something out moving forward and present us with something in 2018.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And was he aware of the testimony we had received from the acting Commissioner?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. As far as I know, he was. Because he did tell me he read the bill.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you. So, in terms of lining up the qualifications and compensation of early childhood educators with those of, let's say, educators, for example in the lower grades in the public school system, I know that some of our other legislation and many of the conversations that we've had in committee have been regarding the qualifications that early childhood educators need to have, what they have now and what they may be required to have in the future, and would these qualifications be enough, in certain cases, to qualify them also for other teaching jobs that pay more?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding is that if they want to move up into like a kindergarten level or elementary level, they would have to be certified for those positions, so I don't think they would qualify with a BA in Early Childhood Education; this would specifically only help these nonprofit programs that run these school readiness and other programs that are funded through the state, so that's my understanding. So, I would guess that if they did get a BA in Early Childhood and wanted to move into the public school system where they could make some more, be compensated, they would have to be certified before they can do so.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you. And the Representative Sanchez's answer leads me to another questions, which is that in some of the testimony, we heard, there was a fear expressed that under the current circumstances, with the pay scale that we have or the pay circumstances that we have, since there's no official scale, that at the moment, pre-K teaching has turned somewhat into a training ground for teaching in the K-12 public school system and one of the things that worries me or at least provokes a question for me is, are we trying to fix something we may not be able to change; because if we're asking people to have a superior qualification, which then allows them either to go ahead and teach in K-12 or simply take a couple of extra steps to do that, can we actually address that concern with compensation?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that if we get -- many of the teachers that I have spoken to who are either getting their BA's or have received their BA's already, have stressed that they love the work they do in the preschool setting and they would love to stay there. So I would imagine that if we gave them -- if they had the compensation that they deserve, a fair compensation, they would actually stay where they're at and not move out of whatever program that they're serving in, because they really do love working with preschool children. Now, I'm not sure -- I guess in the past, there have been teachers that have left the early childhood program with a BA and received their certification and moved on to a public school system, but I kind of don't blame them because if they can make $ 20 thousand or $ 25 thousand dollars more a year, you know, that's a buy in for them. They go to school for four years to get a Bachelor's Degree and they really expect to be compensated at the end, at a fair rate. So, I think that, to answer your questions, I think, yes, it could be a training ground like you're saying, but I would think that the majority of the teachers would stay within that program that they're at, the preschool program that they're at, as long as they knew that at the end of the tunnel, they would be compensated fairly and just be able to stay where they're at, where they love.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm curious, are there other states, other places that we've looked at, where in fact, that is the case, there is a regular movement of preschool teachers from the setting after a number of years to the K-12 setting and are they replenished in that event?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I would have to research that because I'm not too sure at this point.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to move just to the text of the bill for a moment. In the paragraph that begins on line 18, goes to line 27, there are suggestions as to what the Office of Early Childhood may do in developing the schedule and there's a reference in line 24, one of the things that says that the OEC may do is to “utilize state and federal funding. ” What exactly does that mean and how would they do it?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Well, the Office of Early Childhood would have to look at exactly what they have, what they have in federal funds and state funding in order to be able to use some of that, some of those dollars towards this compensation scheduled. But like I stated earlier, talking to the Commissioner, there may be other innovative ways that they can look for savings within their department and use those dollars to put into a compensation schedule. I can give you an idea like in New Britain, there was a program that recently lost its slots. Another program picked it up, but there may be other organizations out there throughout the state that could either not utilize the slots that they are funded for and yet those slots will still have funds within the office of Early Childhood and the way the Office of Early Childhood utilizes them is really up to them and so I think that they can come up with a schedule and use some of those funds towards compensating teachers at a fair rate that they should -- that they deserve.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you. I would move to the next paragraph, which again, talks about what the final report next year from the Office of Early Childhood would include and it refers to an analysis of the effect of the implementation of the schedule on the number of available preschool seats. Is there some anticipation that raising the compensation of the teachers themselves might necessitate a reduction of the seats?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That can happen. That can happen. But, like I stated earlier, there may be some programs that don't utilize the total amount of funds. Again, in New Britain, the public school system there, their preschool system plans on going into a full year, full day program. Right now they're running a half-day program and they will be utilizing less slots. So what happens to the other 30 or 40 slots, well that funding is still within the Office of Early Childhood. So, yes, it could work both ways.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you. And just finally on the text of the bill in the same vein, what would be in the report, will there be a consideration of the effect of developing this schedule for state-funded slots on private providers that don't receive any state funding and what they're paying?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I'm not too sure. I would guess that the Office of Early Childhood when they come up with their recommendations in January, if this bill was to go through, we would know more if that would actually happen. At this point, I'm not too sure if that would be a standard for private daycares. Private daycares, right know, as far as I know, don't receive state funding. So, I think this would strictly be for state-funded programs at this point.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would -- that would be a concern because there would surely be some kind of effect even if the compensation schedule didn't apply to them.

I have one final question for the good gentleman, who's been very patient, which is, is it possible that the conclusion of this analysis and recommendation would be, for there not to be any increase at all if that were warranted?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That's possible. I hope not, but that's possible.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Lavielle.

REP. LAVIELLE (143RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't have any more questions for the good gentleman, who I thank for his answers and who has been very patient. I know he has worked very, very hard on this matter for quite a long time and there is a -- there is something of a problem that we've heard about from a lot of providers in terms of keeping some of the preschool teachers in their jobs. That realization, for me though, is also it's mitigated because there's a number of other factors that are at play here. For one, we seem to have broad declining enrollment in our school systems in general. Spots may vanish sort of by virtue of attrition really. We also have a great deal of uncertainty right now, as we all know, in terms of available funding. We really don't know as we stand here what sort of federal or state funding is going to be available to our preschool programs. It seems to change almost every day. And I don't know that we're going to have a whole lot of certainty between now and when this -- during the time that the recommendation is being developed. I'm also not sure that we fully digested the notion of people progressing from preschool teaching into K-12 teaching and being replaced by newcomers. I don't know, I'm not suggesting that's a good thing to do. It just seems to be happening. So, I'm very torn but I do understand the necessity to bring some logic to the process, which is the virtue of the legislative proposal. So, again, I thank the good Representative for all of his work on this and I will listen further to the debate.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, Representative. Representative Betts of the 78th. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Thank you very much and good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. A few questions to the proponent if I might?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Could the good gentleman tell me if this work that is being asked in this bill could be done if there was no legislation, through you, could the Office of Early Childhood do this without legislation?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. They attempted to do this about two years ago, but it went nowhere and working with the Office of Early Childhood recently, we -- they were going to come up with a study. They started a study but they never finished the study. So, as we're moving forward, this is like the fourth year since we implemented these mandates on the teachers to get their Bachelor's Degrees and to have a good quality program, we can't wait any longer. That's my feeling, we just can't wait any longer. I don't know with the new commissioner if he's willing to do this on his own, but speaking with him, he was okay with this bill moving forward and he said that he would work with us to come up with an answer with some recommendations for January of next year.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Betts.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Thank you. Thank you for that answer. So, if the good gentleman could explain to me why the Office of Early Childhood could do this work because of this legislation when it said up to this point, they were not able to do it? Is that because they did not have the talent, the expertise, the staff, what is it that changes because of this bill, what is it that changes to give you confidence that this work, in fact, can be done, because I don't understand, based on your explanation how it will change?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. You know, we have a new commissioner and as far as I know, I don't know what the previous problems were or issues. I don't know if it had to do with staffing; that I don't know, but in talking with the new commissioner, he was okay with this bill and moving forward to come up with the recommendations.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Betts.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Thank you. And thank you for that answer. Is it fair to, am I accurate in inferring from this bill, that a new compensation schedule will be developed, it is not logical to assume that the cost for early childhood care subsequently will be more expensive because the teachers will end up getting higher wages?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I don't believe so. I believe that it would be to our -- I would think that if we are paying these teachers a fair salary, many of them would stay in the programs that they're working for. I believe that the Office of Early Childhood can come up with some innovative ways to at least phase in some type of fair schedule starting in 2018 or 2019. And again, that will depend a lot on what these recommendations are, what they put forward in front of us in the Education Committee and then it would be up to the Education Committee to make that decision moving forward, if it's affordable or not or if we can afford it. If the Office of Early Childhood came up with some good recommendations where it's not going to cost more, maybe utilizing some of the slots that they cannot fill at that point. So there's, I mean, at this point, I'm not too sure, until they come up with those recommendations and bring it in front of us so that we can look at these recommendations and then make a decision.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Betts.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

Thank you. I thank the gentleman for his answers. I just want to provide some of my thinking and the reasons why I'm going to be opposing this bill. It's certainly laudable to offer more compensation to the people who are taking care of these early childhood care kids, but, logic -- it only makes sense that if you're going to pay teachers more money that the cost for taking care of these kids are going to be going up. I mean it's obvious. So I'd rather just say, okay, the teachers deserve to get more money and the cost will go up, not may go up, they will go up like they would in any other situation. And in being that candid and that honest, I also have to sit there and say to myself, given the current situation we have in the budget, I don't like to make promises that I may not be able to keep and assuming that there's a recommendation and people approve the higher salary and the wages, I don't see where the state, and somebody can correct me later after I speak, I don't see where the state has the money, the new money to pay these individuals in a sustainable way. And furthermore, if it's not the state and somehow it's on the municipalities, I would raise the same concern and it would not be for one year, it would be for multiple years. So it seems to me that what we're doing is we're going to recommend higher compensation, which is going to lead to higher costs, which I think will logically lead to fewer spots being filled because it will be more expensive, unless they can get some subsidies somewhere else, and this will become part of a new cycle; and I'm not being judgmental about it, that's great, what I am concerned about and what I'm very resistive to, is making a financial commitment given our current situation in the state budget. I mean it's the last thing that I would be looking at right now is to put the state in the position of having to come up with new money, no matter how worthwhile it might be, where are we going to get the money or what are you going to cut to be able to offer this higher compensation and what are you going to say to the parents who may not be able to have their kids go and get the childcare that they currently get now.

That's my thinking, those are my reasons and I'll listen to debate if somebody can convince me otherwise, but for those reasons, I cannot support this bill and I thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Representative Belsito of the 53rd District. Sir, you have the floor. Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Here we have, once again, another study. Number 14,539. Not only is this another study, but they have already done a study on this that didn't sort of work out and that was number 13,244. So here we are a couple of thousand studies away and we're coming back to do the same study. But I have a few questions for the proponent, through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed, sir.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you to the proponent. Do you happen to know the salary that these preschool teachers are making now?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Anywhere between $ 28 thousand to $ 35 thousand and these are teachers that have been in the system for 10 to 15 years.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. And do these individuals have Master's Degree or Bachelor's Degrees or are they just individuals who love children and know how to take care of them?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. The majority of them at the present moment either Associate Degree's or Bachelor Degree's and there could be a handful that have Master's Degrees.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent, exactly how many individuals are we talking about in the state of Connecticut?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. I don't have that number. Presently, I don't have that number.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and through the proponent, do you -- through the proponent, could the number possibly be about 35? Is it the whole state or is it just Hartford, or New Haven? But can we get an approximate number of the individuals that are now making $ 28 thousand to $ 35 thousand and you had suggested that it was going to go someplace above $ 50 thousand, so if you could give us a total number we might be able to figure out how much more this going to cost us.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. There are, I don't know, how many programs that receive state funding for school readiness, so I would imagine -- I can give you a number for a school readiness program in the city of New Britain, they have 80 staff members in that program and I would say, out of the 80, a good 65 to 70 percent are at their goal of getting an Associates or a Bachelor's Degree and many of the teachers in that program have been there for anywhere between 10 to 20 years.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. All of these individuals, are they actually teaching in the system or are they doing associate work, paperwork, filing papers and so on and so forth?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. These teachers are teaching in the classroom. Many of the kids, all of the kids that come in through the doors of these particular programs, the teachers have to do, what I have here in my hand, and this is just through the program that I'm talking about in New Britain. They do a child assessment portfolio. This portfolio covers domains such as physical, it covers language skills, writing skills, science, math, so all of this is being taught in these classrooms by these teachers and this is why it's so important that we have teachers that have these degrees so we can run some good quality programs.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. Of all of the individuals that are working there now, they're making $ 25 to $ 35 thousand; exactly how many days a week are they working? How many hours per week are they working? And how many weeks during the year are they working?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Again, it depends on the program. For the most part, if you're in a school readiness year-round program, you're looking at a full year through summer, winter, fall, and you're talking about anywhere between 30 to 35 hours a week and Monday through Friday.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker, to the proponent of the bill. So, we -- I hate to use this word but assume that most of these people are working 50 or 52 weeks a year and are working 35 hours per week, that seems to be what you are insinuating.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Again, it depends on the program because there are many programs that run half-day programs, full-day programs, part-year, full-year. So for most part, if it is a school readiness, full-year funded program, it would be 52 weeks in the year. They may get one week off for training and many of them have benefits such as vacation time that they can take during the year.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. So it sounds like we have no idea of how many teachers are working how many weeks and how many hours during the school year. So we have no idea the cost of this to the state of Connecticut.

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Is that correct?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Again, this is for the Office of Early Childhood to come up with these recommendations in January. It would give us an idea how many of the staff members are in a full-day program, versus a part-day program. And the schedule that they come up or the recommendations that they come up would give us that idea and give us a round figure, so to speak.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. Wouldn't it be advisable to at least know the bases of the number of individuals, children, or the teachers rather in this system already and how much they're working so that we could get some idea of the cost of this program?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Again, this is for the Office of Early Childhood to come up with the recommendations and to inform us what this would cost, if it costs anything and would give us a number. I, offhand, cannot give -- I can't tell you how many programs run school readiness throughout the whole state of Connecticut, but it is the whole state that would be affected. Thank you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker to the proponent of the bill. Wouldn't it be possible for them to pull out the old study from two years ago? It's not complete, but there's some work was done on this and start using that to build upon what they want to do.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Well, it's my hope that the new Commissioner can locate where that study is and maybe finish off with that study and then come up with our recommendations for January 2018.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker to the proponent. Does this mean that you will not force this study to go through, you're going to have them finish the old study before we do the new study, that's what it sounded like.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. No, again, it's a recommendation that the Office of Early Childhood would have to come up how they do it and where they get their figures is really up to them. I'm not telling what to do, I'm asking them to come up with something that they can come to us and so that we can have at least in front of us, what it would cost, if it would cost something or maybe they have an innovative way of coming up to, with a fair schedule for, compensation schedule for these teachers.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you, Mr. Speaker. I didn't quite understand that. It sounded as if the proponent said that he wants them to finish the first study from two years ago and then come up with new numbers of how many people are going to be working there. They should know this already and what I'm driving at is, if we could get a cost or something from them, but is that what he means? They're going to finish the first study before we do the second study?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. No. I don't know if they'll even look at the first -- I have no idea. All I'm saying is that we're asking them to come up with some recommendations to take into consideration years of working in a program, they're college degree, whether it's an Associates, Bachelors or Master's Degree and then come up with these recommendations and bring it in front of us, hopefully of January 2018 if this bill goes through today.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And just a couple more questions to the proponent of the bill. This bill, with the number of people he's talking about, could be in the vicinity of 2000-3000 teachers. Is that true, Mr. Speaker?

Through you.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That's possible, it could be that amount.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Through you, Mr. Speaker to the proponent of the bill. This bill with 2000 to 3000 employees now making $ 28 to $ 50 thousand or $ 45 thousand is going to be expanded into a higher rate of pay; that is going to put the state in another deficit position. Does the proponent of the bill understand this?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Many of these teachers don't even make -- to my understanding, many of them don't even make close to $ 40 thousand or $ 45 thousand; they have been stagnant at a level of $ 30 thousand, $ 28 thousand, $ 35 thousand -- one of the teachers that came up here to testify has been working for the Head Start program now for 25 years and she is just at $ 36 thousand dollars. So, for -- again, the Office of Early Childhood would have to come up with these recommendations and present them to us.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Belsito.

REP. BELSITO (53RD):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to the proponent for his answers.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Representative Dauphinais of the 44th District. Ma'am, you have the floor.

REP. DAUPHINAIS (44TH):

I thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a couple quick questions for the proponent of the bill. My first question is, what study shows the correlation between paying teachers more and increased performance by the children in the classroom?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. This is asking them to come up with that answer, the Office of Early Childhood. So, that's my expectations that when they come up with the recommendations, they will look into all these areas and determine whether they can come up with a fair pay schedule for these teachers and how much it would cost us moving forward.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Dauphinais.

REP. DAUPHINAIS (44TH):

One more question for the proponent please. So it is fair to say the goal of this bill is to create a mandated pay scale for all state-funded early childhood programs across the state?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. If we want to, if we want retain the teachers and have a good quality early childhood program for these, many of them, underprivileged children in certain districts, I would imagine it would basically be a scale that they can offer these programs and give them an idea of what a teacher should be making up to a certain amount -- I don't know what that amount would be. It would be up to the Office of Early Childhood to determine that. But it would move them from the $ 25 or $ 35 thousand dollars where they're at now, depending on their experience, the years they have been in the classroom and depending on their degree, that they would move up another, I don't know, $ 5 thousand $ 10 thousand dollars, whatever it may be. But it would not be a mandate.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Dauphinais.

REP. DAUPHINAIS (44TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. So it would be a mandated pay scale?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. No, it wouldn't be a mandated pay scale.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Dauphinais.

REP. DAUPHINAIS (44TH):

Okay, thank you sir. No more questions.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, ma'am. Representative Vail of the 52nd District. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. VAIL (52ND):

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I may, a few questions for the proponent of the bill?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed, sir.

REP. VAIL (52ND):

I saw in here that there is no fiscal note. Is that correct?

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That's correct.

REP. VAIL (52ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So the appropriation for this program is already set and fixed?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

It's through OFA and a number of other, and the Office of Early Childhood, this would not have a fiscal note. The Office of Early Childhood would come up with the recommendations, and again, bring it to us in 2018, which will then at that point might have a fiscal note.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Vail.

REP. VAIL (52ND):

Okay, so if we were to raise salaries for these teachers and we had a set amount of money, wouldn't that be less spaces available for the children in this program? And thus, there'd be less children that would be able to participate in the program without raising the fiscal note? Would that be true?

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Sanchez. I believe you've answered that before but if you want to answer it again, please proceed.

REP. SANCHEZ (25TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. That's a possibility. But, again, if for some reason there are extra dollars to expand on slots, maybe what the Office of Early Childhood should be really looking at is, instead of expanding these slots is looking at how they can retain some of these teachers so that we can talk about good quality early childhood education in these school readiness programs.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Vail.

REP. VAIL (52ND):

Okay. No further questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill? Will you remark further on the bill? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Have all the members voted? Will the members please check the board to determine if your vote is properly cast? If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. The clerk will please announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill 7155.

Total number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 95

Those Voting Nay 51

Absent not Voting 5

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Any announcements or introductions? Any announcements or introductions? Representative MacLachlan of the 35th. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. MACLACHLAN (35TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. MacLachlan certainly is a mouthful. I appreciate the opportunity to rise for the purpose of an announcement.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Please proceed, sir.

REP. MACLACHLAN (35TH):

Thank you, sir. We have a birthday boy in the House today, hailing from the far reaches of lower Connecticut River Valley, representing the 23rd District, the great towns of Lyme, Old Lyme, lower half of Westbrook and Old Saybrook, Representative Devin Carney. Let's give it up for him, ladies and gentlemen. [applause and cheering]. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Happy Birthday Representative Carney. As a member of the southeastern delegation, I can tell you, you're really aging gracefully. [laughing]. Any other introductions or announcements? Will the Clerk please call Calendar No. 435.

CLERK:

On page 38, Calendar 435. Substitute Senate Bill No. 798, AN ACT CONCERNING POLICE ASSISTANCE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES AND THE MASHANTUCKET PEQUOT TRIBE OR THE MOHEGAN TRIBE OF INDIANS OF CONNECTICUT. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Public Safety and Security.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Representative Verrengia, you have the floor, sir.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Good afternoon. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill in concurrence with the Senate.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptable of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill in concurrence with the Senate. Representative Verrengia, you have the floor.

REP. VERRENGIA (20TH):

Mr. Speaker, this makes a minor change to the underlying bill. It allows for our tribal police departments to enter into mutual aid agreements with municipalities on the same terms and conditions as municipalities concurrently do under existing law.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Will you remark further on the bill that's before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? Representative Sredzinski of the 112th. Sir, you have the floor.

REP. SREDZINSKI (112TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's a very straightforward bill, it's passed our committee unanimously. It is very common sense, a good bill, it ought to pass.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Thank you, sir. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

DEPUTY SPEAKER RYAN (139TH):

Members while you're in the Chamber, we are going to be doing a number of bills right in a row, so you may want to stay close by so the votes will go quickly.

Once again, we're asking members to stay close to the Chamber as the next few votes should be coming pretty quickly.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. The clerk will take a tally. The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

Senate Bill No. 798

Total number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those Voting Yea 146

Those Voting Nay 0

Absent not Voting 5

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Will the clerk please call Calendar No. 421.

CLERK:

On page 36, Calendar No. 421. Substitute House Bill No. 7196, AN ACT CONCERNING NONADVERSARIAL DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The fine Representative of the great city of Bridgeport, Representative Stafstrom of the 129th. You have the floor, sir.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Good to see you up there, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good to see you my friend.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Mr. Speaker I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The question before the Chamber is on acceptable of Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Stafstrom, please proceed.

REP. STAFSTROM (129TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the bill before us makes certain changes to the nonadversarial divorce process which this legislature put in place a few years ago. The nonadversarial divorce process is an expedited court procedure that allows a judge to enter a divorce decree without a hearing if the parties to the marriage file a notarized joint petition to begin the divorce process and meet certain criteria. The bill before us changes two of those criteria, most notably, that to be eligible for nonadversarial divorce, someone must have been married for less than nine years as opposed to eight years under current law and also increase the threshold of the couple's assets from $ 35 thousand to $ 80 thousand, thus making more couples eligible for the nonadversarial divorce process. This bill came out of the Judiciary Committee unanimously. The concerns that were raised during the public hearing were addressed in substitute language and we believe this will have a positive fiscal impact for the Judicial Branch, in that it will reduce some of their service of process and other costs. I ask my colleagues' support for it.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, sir. Representative Rebimbas of the 70th. You have the floor, madam.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the legislation that's before us for all of the reasons the good chairman just eloquently indicated to the Chamber. This is a program that was put in place a few years ago and we're expanding on it because it was successful. Not only will it have a positive fiscal impact, but it certainly has an emotional positive impact on families who have reached agreement and would like to proceed accordingly in the Judicial system without being tied by paperwork and other type of requirements and so I do rise in support of the legislation before us.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, madam. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill No. 7196.

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those voting Yea 143

Those voting Nay 3

Those absent and not voting 5

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Will the clerk please call House Calendar 452.

CLERK:

On page 41, Calendar 452. Substitute House Bill No. 7299, AN ACT CONCERNING STRENGTHENING LAWS CONCERNING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Judiciary.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The esteemed chair of the Judiciary Committee, Representative Tong from the great city of Stanford. You have the floor, sir.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Good afternoon, my esteemed speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good afternoon, sir.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Esteemed.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Steamed.

REP. TONG (147TH):

I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The question is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Tong, please proceed.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Clerk has amendment LCO 6881. I ask the clerk please call the amendment and I be given leave of the Chamber to provide a summary.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the clerk please call LCO 6881, which will be designated House Amendment Schedule “A”.

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule “A” LCO 6881, offered by Representative Tong, Representative Rebimbas.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment, is there an objection to summarization? Is there objection to summarization? Hearing none, Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This amendment makes a short technical change in the language of the bill and provided the amendment is approved, then I will describe what the bill does. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I urge adoption.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Representative. Representative Rebimbas of the 70th.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For all the reasons the esteemed chair just indicated, I do rise in support of the amendment before us and simply what it does, it does not change the definition of emotional distress. It was a technical change found by LCO and will certainly then red -- will certainly highlight the definition of emotional distress if the amendment passes and we go to the underlying bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

All right. Thank you very much. The question before the Chamber is on adoption of House Amendment Schedule “A”. Will you remark, will you remark? Seeing none. I will try your minds. All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Those opposed, nay. The ayes' have it. The amendment is adopted. [gavel]

Will you remark on the bill as amended? Representative Tong.

REP. TONG (147TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill is a continuation of the Judiciary Committee's efforts to strengthen our state's laws to prevent and to punish domestic violence. This bill addresses a couple important issues. Number one, it refines and strengthens from a victim protection perspective, the definition of stalking. It also provides later in the bill for the addition of suffocation to the definition of strangulation, which often unfortunately happens in family violence and domestic violence situations. It also enhances penalties for violations of conditions of release when somebody engages in an act involving unlawful restraint of somebody else, threatening, harrassing or other forms of physical violence that are commonly associated with domestic violence and for those reasons, I urge support for this measure, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, Representative Tong. Representative Rebimbas, please proceed.

REP. REBIMBAS (70TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise in support of the bill as amended for all the reasons that the chairman had indicated. It does provide some clarification as well as updating our legislation for the new types of ways of harrassing individuals. So I rise in support.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Like a finely tuned machine today. Thank you, Representative. Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill No. 7299 as amended by House “A”

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those voting Yea 146

Those voting Nay 0

Those absent and not voting 5

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill as amended passes. [gavel]

Will the clerk please call House Calendar 268.

CLERK:

On page 19, Calendar 268, House Bill No. 7105, AN ACT CONCERNING WATER COMPANY RATE ADJUSTMENT MECHANISMS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Energy and Technology.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Reed of the 102nd, you have the floor, madam.

REP. REED (102ND):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The question is on acceptance of Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Reed, you have the floor, madam.

REP. REED (102ND):

Thank you, again, Mr. Speaker. This bill is designed to streamline the administrative process for determining if a water company has earned more revenue than is permitted by law. If it has earned more revenue, that revenue is returned to the rate payers. It's a complicated process and PURA, the Public Utilities Regulatory Authority, which oversees it, has requested this bill to, again, streamline the process. It's a consumer protection bill. It passed unanimously out of the committee and again, I urge my colleagues to support it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, madam. Representative Hoydick of the 120th. You have the floor, madam.

REP. HOYDICK (120TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I concur with the good chairwoman of Energy that this is a good bill. It reconciles rate payer dollars. It streamlines the process. It actually saves repairs money as it has cost PURA less to work on these cases and so I encourage my colleague to support the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, madam. Will you remark further on the bill before us? Will you remark further on the bill before us? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked and the clerk will take a tally. The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill No. 7105

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those voting Yea 146

Those voting Nay 0

Those absent and not voting 5

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes. [gavel]

Representative Albis of the 99th for what purposes do you rise, sir?

REP. ALBIS (99TH):

Mr. Speaker, I rise because the clerk has a copy of today's go list containing today's referrals. I would move that we waive the reading of the list of referrals and the bills be referred to the committees indicated with the exception of Calendar 280, which will remain on the Calendar.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

So ordered. [gavel]

Will the Clerk please call House Calendar 363.

CLERK:

On page 30, House Calendar 363. Substitute House Bill No. 7171, AN ACT CONCERNING ATHLETIC TRAINERS. Favorable report of the Joint Standing Committee on Public Health.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

I was looking for you Representative. Representative Borer of the 115th, you have the floor, madam.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you. I'm right here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The question is on acceptance of the Joint Committee's favorable report and passage of the bill. Representative Borer, you have the floor, madam.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill is regarding athletic trainers. It redefines the terminology of the clients that athletic trainers can treat from athletes to physically active individuals, which basically expands the scope from athletes to those that work in general industry such as fire fighters and police officers. This bill also tightens up the definition in terms of how athletic trainers can operate under standard orders and it also redefines when a student is exempt. Mr. Speaker, I also have an amendment which is LCO 6884.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will the clerk please call LCO 6884, which will be designated as House Amendment Scheduled “A”.

CLERK:

House Amendment Schedule “A” LCO 6884 offered by Representative Klarides-Ditria, Representative Srinivasan, Representative Steinberg, Representative Borer.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative seeks leave of the Chamber to summarize the amendment. Is there objection to summarization? Is there objection to summarization? Hearing none, Representative Borer, you have the floor, madam.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This amendment requires athletic trainers working in a setting such as industrial or general industry to now require ten hours of training, a program offered by OSHA, to also require 45 hours of either direct supervision under another athletic trainer or to be required to have a three-credit course. I move that the amendment be moved.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, madam. Will you remark further on the amendment before us? Will you remark further on the amendment before us? If not, let me try your minds. All those in favor please signify by saying aye.

REPRESENTATIVES:

Aye.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Those opposed, nay. The ayes have it. The amendment is adopted. [gavel]

Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Representative Borer.

REP. BORER (115TH):

My summarization stands as previously.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, madam. Representative Srinivasan of the 31st, you have the floor.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Good afternoon, sir.

REP. SRINIVASAN (31ST):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This bill, as the good person who brought this bill out, clarifies what an athletic trainer will be able to do. We have seen this need arise where you go beyond athletic training in the conventional sense and there are multiple locations, multiple situations where the services of these people are required and this is what the bill as amended does. It is done in a wonderful way bipartisan with both of us in a constant conversation and I want to thank all of you for working so well on this side of the aisle so that we have a bill amended, which is straightforward, simple and ought to pass.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, sir. Will you remark further? Representative Klarides-Ditria of the 105th, you have the floor, madam.

REPRESENTATIVE KLARIDES-DITRIA (105TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just have a couple questions. I rise for some clarification questions.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Borer, please prepare yourself.

REPRESENTATIVE KLARIDES-DITRIA (105TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through the speaker. Representative, did athletic trainers go through a scope of a review for their practice?

REP. BORER (115TH):

Yes they did.

REPRESENTATIVE KLARIDES-DITRIA (105TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. When did they do that?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Borer.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it was this previous past year, 2016.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Klarides-Ditria.

REPRESENTATIVE KLARIDES-DITRIA (105TH):

Thank you. Through you, Mr. Speaker. By removing the time requirement of three times per week in participation of a sports and activities, pertaining to those, an athletic trainer can treat, will this open athletic trainers to being on the sidelines of youth sporting events?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Borer.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes. This does open that up so that they can now treat individuals such as Pop Warner, that they weren't able to previously treat before.

Through you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Klarides-Ditria.

REPRESENTATIVE KLARIDES-DITRIA (105TH):

Through you, Mr. Speaker. Is Connecticut the only state in the country that has these three times per week constraints?

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Borer.

REP. BORER (115TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through you. Yes, Connecticut currently is the only state that has these restraints.

Through you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Klarides-Ditria.

REPRESENTATIVE KLARIDES-DITRIA (105TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Will you remark further on the bill as amended? Will you remark further on the bill as amended? If not, will staff and guests please come to the well of the House. Members please take you seats and the machine will be opened. [bell ringing]

CLERK:

The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber. The House of Representatives is voting by roll. Members to the Chamber.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Have all the members voted? Have all the members voted? If all the members have voted, please check the board to ensure your vote has been properly cast. If all the members have voted, the machine will be locked. The clerk will take a tally. [background whoa clapping] Representative Tercyak of the 26th, for what purpose do you rise, sir?

REP. TERCYAK (26TH):

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I apologize. In spite of your admonition to check the board and make sure we voted correctly, I did not and imagine my surprise to hear people calling out whoa and see my name in red. I'd prefer to be recorded in the affirmative, please.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Tercyak in the affirmative. [background laughing and clapping] Might you have anything to say, Representative Fishbein? [cheering and clapping]

REP. FISHBEIN (90TH):

So, Mr. Speaker, I apologize for earlier not, when you had to call on me a few times and I didn't apologize, but I too was speaking to my colleagues and didn't notice that I had mistakenly hit the red button and I would like to have that changed.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Fishbein in the affirmative. [cheering and clapping] Representative for a moment, I thought it was me and then I looked over and saw Representative Klarides sitting right there. [laughing]

The clerk will announce the tally.

CLERK:

House Bill No. 7171 as amended by House “A”

Total Number Voting 146

Necessary for Passage 74

Those voting Yea 146

Those voting Nay 0

Those absent and not voting 5

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

The bill passes as amended. [gavel]

Representative Ritter.

REP. RITTER (1ST):

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just to want let everyone know we will be in tomorrow at 10: 30 in the morning and we should have a nice productive work day, thank you.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Representative Albis of the 99th. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to move reconsideration of a motion to refer to approps, a bill that was acted upon today. The bill is Calendar No. 174, it's House Bill No. 6663. I was on the prevailing side and I move for reconsideration of the motion to refer Calendar 174.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

So ordered. [gavel]

Representative Betts of the 78th. I almost didn't see you, but then I saw the tie.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

That's to make up for my not having a name badge and it's been a very bad day, I won't let it happen again. For the purpose of the journal entry, on a sad note, I did want to let everybody know that Representative Smith missed votes today because of the passing of his mother. So, that was the reason why he missed votes and Representative Frey is out of state on legislative business. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, sir. The Journal will so note. Representative Luxenberg of the 12th District. You have the floor, madam.

REP. LUXENBERG (12TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For a Journal notation, the following members were out today for business outside the Chamber, Baker, Luxenberg, Guerrera, Lopes, Mushinsky, Orange for legislative business in District. Dillon and Rosario for medical reasons, Genga for personal and family issues, Representative Godfrey and for illness, Representative Morris and Representative Gonzalez. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Thank you very much, madam. The Journal will so note. Are there any other announcements or introductions? Representative Betts of the 78th.

REP. BETTS (78TH):

It appears my memory is fading sir. Representative Pavalock-D'Amato was out of the Chamber on business in her District. That should wrap up the entire Republic caucus for today.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Knowing that she is a member of your delegation, I know you don't want to mess up on that one, Representative Betts.

Any other announcements or introductions? Any other announcements or introductions? For the word we've been waiting for. We recognize Representative Albis of the 99th.

REP. ALBIS (99TH):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There being no further business on the clerk's desk, I move that we adjourn, subject to the Call of the Chair.

SPEAKER ARESIMOWICZ (30TH):

Without objection, so ordered. [gavel]

(On motion of Representative Albic of the 99th District, the House adjourned at 4: 52 o'clock p. m. , subject to the Call of the Chair. )

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